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BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

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Old 12-17-2009, 01:21 PM   #316
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

Gruden vs Shanahan? Easy...Shanahan!
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:22 PM   #317
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Ok, All i meant is in your showing the w/l record, i didn't see 2007, and i wondered what that was. But I agree 100%. Gibbs only won 3 SB, but what mattered is every year, almost, the Redskins were relevant and feared. I would like to get back to that.
Yeah, I caught that... my bad.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:23 PM   #318
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One thing to mention about that -- the Glazer family had previously extended the contract of both Gruden and Bruce Allen before ultimately changing their mind after the '08 season. The Bucs did start out 9-3 before a late season slide.

It might have been a bit of a snap decision on the Glazer's part, and one that cost them quite a bit of money.

Allen's draft record with Tampa Bay did have some mixed results, but look at the drafts of Oakland too. Nnamdi Asomugha, Justin Fargas, and Sebastian Janikowski are notable picks by him.

I don't think there was a general manager candidate out there without some misses on their draft record. The guy with a perfect track record doesn't exist. Aside from Bill Polian, who as far as I know is not available, Allen had to be one of the top options who was currently unemployed.
Yeah every GM has misses, but was Allen the best available guy? I don't think he was. When the news broke I thought Casserly was gonna be back in but he's getting old and he seems to like appearing on CSN. This move should've been made last year and we might've gotten Pioli from NE, but I think anything is better than Vinny so I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:23 PM   #319
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

How long till we sign Jeff Garcia?
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:24 PM   #320
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Yeah, I caught that... my bad.
funny thing is right after I posted mine, I saw your edit. Made me laugh
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:25 PM   #321
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I think Allen is qualified to be a GM. We're getting a guy that really knows football. That's something that this organization hasn't had in a long time.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:26 PM   #322
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My money's on Morocco Brown and Tony Dungy.
I think that if Dungy was one that Snyder did a hell of a job keeping it out of the media.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:27 PM   #323
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HAHA, maybe I just didnt say it right, but thats what I was trying to say!!
Oh, ok...gotcha.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:32 PM   #324
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MSchottenheimer on Sirius:

"Dan is not a meddlesome owner" , lambasts VC, "Dan will often time listen to the wrong people". Agreed that this is a good time to make the change. "Hard for me to speculate on [HC decision]", lots of praise for BA. "At this juncture, I think it is an excellent choice" "this would be a example of DS listening to the right voice" "right now in my mind these two decisions represent a quantum step forward, because DS recognized he wasn't getting what he deserved from the FO"

A lot of good thoughts.

I typed as I was listening so hope it makes sense.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:32 PM   #325
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I think Vinny showed his true colors by dissing Zorn like that.
I agree and that's exactly the reason I never liked VC. He's known to not be very personable. There's no need to take a shot at Zorn like that on the way out. Oh well, he's gone and thank god we don't have to talk about him anymore.

I think Bruce Allen is an excellent choice. He's built winners in two places, he has ties to the area and the skins, and he's fairly young. I think DS did very well.

Shanahan is a winner folks. You can't do alot better than him. Gruden is a winner too. I'm happy w/ either of the two. Hell, i'd be happy hiring a young guy like Brian S or Kyle S. It's a good day for Skins fans.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:34 PM   #326
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Marty and Cower are bffl's, and I am sure Marty told him not to touch Washington with a 100 foot pole.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:36 PM   #327
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:37 PM   #328
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Rick Stroud (from the St. Petersburg Times) was just interviewed on ESPN980 and reiterated what Smoot said earlier - Allen is a great administrator and contract guy, and thats all he's good at. The coach won't work FOR him, but rather WITH him. Some other of Ricks feelings on him:

1. He's a yes-man. He always did whatever Gruden and the owner wanted. So don't expect Snyder's level of involvement to be reduced.

2. The reason Tampa Bay's drafts from 2004 to 2007 were so bad because Allen and Gruden made all draft decisions "in a vacuum" - If Gruden wanted a player, Allen would agree with him, and they would select the player, regardless of what the scouting department recommended.

3. He and Gruden both like veteran players and value them over draft picks.

I didn't like the Allen hiring and i like it even less now. Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but he's Vinny 2.0. Nothing's really changed. Either one of two things will happen now:

1) We'll hire Gruden or a no-name coach and Snyder will still pull all the strings OR
2) We'll hire Shanahan and He'll have total authority over our offense. Snyder will step down and Allen will just be a puppet for Shannahan.

In either case, the one thing that this organization needs isn't going to happen - We won't have a "real" GM with full authority to make football decisions.
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I think there could still be Shanahan type figure, who has absolute control, and Allen would be the figure-head.
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Their reasoning being the ties to Allen; this very well may happen but there's not even a "source" for this information.
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