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Old 12-17-2009, 06:29 PM   #496
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

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Redskins hiring Allen first move towards Shanahan?
I continue to hear from multiple league sources that Mike Shanahan remains the most likely choice to take over as the Washington Redskins’ head coach in 2010, and the hiring of Bruce Allen is but one move in an organizational overhaul...

...The Redskins will explore candidates to round out the front office in player-personnel roles, according to sources, with current personnel executives such as Eric DeCosta (Baltimore), Bobby DePaul (Chicago) and Doug Williams (Tampa Bay) among possibilities. The Redskins came close to hiring DePaul to replace Cerrato twice during the Gibbs regime, according to sources, and DeCosta, a rising star as Ozzie Newsome’s top lieutenant with the Ravens, began his career with the Redskins. Williams won a Super Bowl as the Redskins’ quarterback and worked under Allen for the Buccaneers in personnel.

Snyder also has been impressed with the work of Morocco Brown, in his first season as Washington’s director of pro personnel, and he could be someone to remain in a revamped front office...

...Many will look at Allen’s hiring as a sign that Gruden could reunite with him in Washington, but multiple sources continue to tell me that Gruden will not coach until at least the 2011 season and is loving his job as an analyst on Monday Night Football. He signed an extension with ESPN, which I am told is ironclad for 2010 in terms of leaving, even for a coaching or “dream job” gig.

“There is a zero percent chance that Jon coaches anywhere next year,” said a source close to the coach...

...Snyder thinks highly of several member of the staff, including defensive coordinator Greg Blache, who has seriously considered retirement in recent years, and secondary coach Jerry Gray, who was viewed as a possible successor to Blache (Snyder blocked Gray from interviewing to be the Houston Texans’ defensive coordinator during the offseason)...

...Allen’s hiring is a strong first step, but there is much more to come as the Redskins try once again to reclaim their glory and emerge from a long malaise.
My main gripe with the hiring of Allen has been his complete lack of accumen in the personnel department and history as being nothing more than a yes-man in personnel-issues. In light of this report, Allen may not be too involved in those issues after all. This would seem to make sense, in light of his and Snyders cryptic comments on the issue during the press conference today.

If JLC's sources are correct and hiring Allen is just the first step, and we bring in DeCosta to handle personnel matters, hire Shanahan to coach the team and run the offense, and retain Jerry Gray as DC, I will do a backflip. There's not much more Snyder could to make me happy.
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:35 PM   #497
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Bruce F%^&#&^% Allen. Thank you Danny.
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:36 PM   #498
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Bruce F%^&#&^% Allen. Thank you Danny.
So I take it you are one of the 3?
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Old 12-17-2009, 06:38 PM   #499
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Question: When we win the SB next year Will anyone say - yes but he won it with the team Cerrato built?
No, because in all likelihood we will draft some lineman. If our offense gets better instantly then everyone on here will think they have what it takes to GM the redskins.
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Question: When we win the SB next year Will anyone say - yes but he won it with the team Cerrato built?
I look forward to that problem.

To me the biggest issue here is not whether Allen (or Vinny for that matter) is the person to lead the team. The biggest issue is that we have overhauled the organizational structure. Even if Allen fails, presumably we will bring in another real GM and continue to have a real FO structure.

Thank you Snyder!
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My main gripe with the hiring of Allen has been his complete lack of accumen in the personnel department and history as being nothing more than a yes-man in personnel-issues. In light of this report, Allen may not be too involved in those issues after all. This would seem to make sense, in light of his and Snyders cryptic comments on the issue during the press conference today.

If JLC's sources are correct and hiring Allen is just the first step, and we bring in DeCosta to handle personnel matters, hire Shanahan to coach the team and run the offense, and retain Jerry Gray as DC, I will do a backflip. There's not much more Snyder could to make me happy.
honestly i really don't think any changes need to be made in the coaching staff. i know i'm probably in the minority but bringing in yet another coach means more change and possibly more set backs. make lewis the oc and let him call the plays and let zorn keep game planning and working with jc and i think we're on our way. i'd keep blache if he wants to stay, if not then hire grey as dc and let's keep things stable.
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honestly i really don't think any changes need to be made in the coaching staff. i know i'm probably in the minority but bringing in yet another coach means more change and possibly more set backs. make lewis the oc and let him call the plays and let zorn keep game planning and working with jc and i think we're on our way. i'd keep blache if he wants to stay, if not then hire grey as dc and let's keep things stable.
Wouldn't it be interesting to see Gregg Williams get the job? Assuming he could forgive Dan, at the very least it was no secret that Cerrato didn't get along with GW. I still don't know who to put my money on, but this is definitely a glorious day. At the very least we will probably see our two first round picks go towards the O-Line given Allens history. He truly is the anti-Cerrato.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:17 PM   #504
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Lets see how the offseason goes... Hopefully this isnt a move that we will regret in 2 years.
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I cannot believe it, I hope he gives Zorn a little longer...
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I cannot believe it, I hope he gives Zorn a little longer...
I'm sure he'll give him 3 games.
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I know we are all glad that VC is gone but i was looking at some of Allen's past drafts and i cant see how he is any better. please enlighten me on something i may have missed.
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Bucs 2008 Draft Results
Rd. # Player Position College
1 20 Aqib Talib DB Kansas
2 52 Dexter Jackson WR Appalachian State
3 83 Jeremy Zuttah OG Rutgers
4 115 Dre Moore DT Maryland
5 160 Josh Johnson QB San Diego
6 175 Geno Hayes LB FSU
6 Acq Michael Bennett RB Wisconsin
7 238 Cory Boyd RB South Carolina
7 Acq Jake Plummer QB Arizona State
Bucs 2007 Draft Results
Rd. # Player Position College
1 4 Gaines Adams DE Clemson
2 35 Arron Sears OG Tennessee
2 64 Sabby Piscitelli DB Oregon State
3 68 Quincy Black LB New Mexico
4 106 Tanard Jackson DB Syracuse
5 141 Greg Peterson DE N.C. Central
6 182 Adam Hayward LB Portland
6 214 Chris Denman OT Fresno State
7 245 Marcus Hamilton DB Virginia
7 246 Kenneth Darby RB Alabama
Bucs 2006 Draft Results
Rd. # Player Position College
1 23 Davin Joseph OG Oklahoma
2 59 Jeremy Trueblood OT Boston College
3 90 Maurice Stovall WR Notre Dame
4 122 Alan Zemaitis DB Penn State
5 156 Julian Jenkins DE Stanford
6 194 Bruce Gradkowski QB Toledo
6 202 T.J. Williams TE N.C. State
7 235 Justin Phinisee DB Oregon
7 241 Charles Bennett LB Clemson
7 244 Tim Massaquoi TE Michigan
Bucs 2005 Draft Results
Rd. # Player Position College
1 5 Carnell Williams RB Auburn
2 36 Barrett Ruud LB Nebraska
3 71 Alex
Smith TE Stanford
3 91 Chris Colmer OT N.C. State
4 107 Dan Buenning OG Wisconsin
5 141 Donte Nicholson DB Oklahoma
5 155 Larry Brackins WR Pearl River C.C.
6 178 Anthony Bryant DT Alabama
7 221 Rick Razzano RB Mississippi
7 225 Paris Warren WR Utah
7 231 Hamza Abdullah DB Washington St.
7 253 J.R. Russell WR Louisville
Bucs 2004 Draft Results
Rd. # Player Position College
1 15 Michael Clayton WR LSU
3 79 Marquis Cooper LB Washington
4 111 Will
Allen DB Ohio State
5 146 Jeb Terry OG North Carolina
6 181 Nate Lawrie TE Yale
7 206 Mark Jones WR Tennessee
7 228 Casey Cramer RB Dartmouth
7 252 Lenny Williams DB Southern
I cant say im too impressed. ill check the Raiders draft picks.
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I know we are all glad that VC is gone but i was looking at some of Allen's past drafts and i cant see how he is any better. please enlighten me on something i may have missed.
A ridiculous amount of OL acquired in the draft and free agency, including 5 in a single draft during 1998. He was strapped by Buc's management in terms of spending, a problem that you won't see with Snyder. On top of that he has experience, and success, while working with a meddlesome owner in Al Davis. In fact the last time the Raiders were relevant was when Allen was picking players. He also understands what it means to be a Redskin.

He was also responsible for drafting guys in Tampa like Rudd, Trueblood, Davin Joseph, and Aquib Talib. On top of that theres probably a lot of guys drafted by Tampa that are currently solid role players, for example if you were looking over guys drafted in the late rounds by the Redskins like Doughty and Montgomery you would probably think they were wasted picks, when in reality they're solid role players for us.

He also seems to be famous for drafting a lot of one year wonders like Cadillac and Michael Clayton. Of course he also acquired Joey Galloway when Clayton started to struggle. No idea what is going on with Aaron Sears but it seems like he's had one to many concussions. Still he was a very good player when he was healthy.

The one thing I do know though is our problems along the Offensive Line are going to get fixed this offseason. Anything after that is gravy.
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