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Old 12-17-2009, 09:06 PM   #541
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It was supply and demand, look at how the Giants were done by SD. They knew manning wanted them and vice versa. But how bad did they want him? they played to it just like Miami played to the notion that we needed a DE and they didnt want Taylor at that time.
I'm really not arguing that point. I do say it's possible someone else may have handled it a different way, but if Taylor had come in played healthy and we saw the output we all hoped for than hindsight wouldn't be involved. My point on VC's out and Allen in, mainly is the atmosphere/attitude change. VCs presence, i believe, fostered a how do i protect myself mentality; BAs presence, from basic initial look, seems like it will foster a team first, leave the excuses at the door, mentality.

And it represents a first step away from a DS centric operation. BA sounds like Redskins first DS second. Not once did he make a "kissup" comment to DS. He came in with a professional tone that hey I am here to do my job, and build the Redskin team. Even when he praised it was the ownership group, not "I want to thank DS". Heck its one press conference, who knows but it sounded right by my ears.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:09 PM   #542
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I just re-watched Allen's conference, and what struck me was how much he reminded me of his father's famous Dallas speech: 53 men working together cannot be beat. His starting line and several other times echoed that thought. I think this is a good day.

DS looked downright uncomfortable in front of the press. Also interesting no SB trophies on display today. I actually liked that. Let's go earn some that he can really display.
Exactly. It's time to move forward. There have been many bad decisions in the last 10 years and we have earned next to nothing. I'm tired of only finding joy in my favorite team from what was done over a decade ago. This is the best sign I have seen from Danny since he hired Joe Gibbs. But even that was trying to grasp something from the past that didn't belong to him. Hiring a GM, regardless of who his father was, is the biggest step into the future this franchise has taken since Snyder became owner. I fully expect Allen to hire top professional personell and take this organization to the top. This decision shows maturity on Snyders part. Allen has admitted mistakes in the past with the draft and I expect him to hire and lean more on the professionals he hires. My hope has always been that Snyder would stop treating the Redskins as his own personal toy to play with, and turn this back into the professional winning organization we were so proud of. This is, at least, a step in that direction.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:20 PM   #543
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Jason Taylor was a NEED, we lost 2 DE's before the season started and at the time he was a double digit sack man. noone saw him coming here and laying an egg. Would you rather nothing was done at all??
I....guess I was put on blast, huh. I never said anything negative about the Jason Taylor trade other then to say I was not sure if we had a 6th rounder or not. I thought the whole deal was done and over, but someone recently mentioned we do not have our 6th round due to the trade. As far as I know it has not been confirmed nor denied.

So.....thanks for blasting me. However I did feel we needed him and was exited we got him, at the time, but also felt we gave up a lot to get him. I just figured he would tear the place up and we would be signing him to a longer contract. Instead we got hosed and not only did Miami get two picks out of the deal but with a one year seperation they got their man back and kept our two picks. We were railroaded. The NFL should have stepped in and either had Miami give one pick back or compensated us with a draft pick.
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:27 PM   #544
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1. Im not complaining, im just showing his drafts where as all i hear on here is that most of us want to build the team through the draft and not high priced free agents. From what you posted we are right back at square one in that regard.
2. Yeah he -Allen-drafts a buttload of Olinemen, have any of them been anything other than stopgap players? for how many he brought in there are many busts on these lists.
3. I never blamed VC for what happened on the field, he has brought in some good young talent in the past drafts that have started to show why they were selected. RAK,DT and FD are coming on strong and you could find many others that have made solid contributions to this team. FA's like Carter,AH and Fletcher have been awesome for us as well. Yeah there were hits and misses but you have to look at the overall product.

No we arent starting off at square one. I am not saying we need to overpay for over the hill players anymore, but you do need to add a few pieces through free agency and we have a owner who will spend money.

Ok since your not complaining who would have you liked to see Danny Boy bring in to be the GM?
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:42 PM   #545
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I....guess I was put on blast, huh. I never said anything negative about the Jason Taylor trade other then to say I was not sure if we had a 6th rounder or not. I thought the whole deal was done and over, but someone recently mentioned we do not have our 6th round due to the trade. As far as I know it has not been confirmed nor denied.

So.....thanks for blasting me. However I did feel we needed him and was exited we got him, at the time, but also felt we gave up a lot to get him. I just figured he would tear the place up and we would be signing him to a longer contract. Instead we got hosed and not only did Miami get two picks out of the deal but with a one year seperation they got their man back and kept our two picks. We were railroaded. The NFL should have stepped in and either had Miami give one pick back or compensated us with a draft pick.
We have no sixth. The price for Jason Taylor was a 2nd in 2009 and a 6th in 2010.

Skins trade for Dolphins' Taylor after Daniels goes down - NFL - ESPN
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:48 PM   #546
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So Shanahan (Mike and/or Kyle) is close to happening allegedly. One thing I wonder is this. Mike Shanahan wouldn't come here now as head coach because Zorn is still here and they wouldn't (I don't think) fire him with just three weeks to go. But...they could hire him now just as President. And then Head Coach later?
Yea, I guess MS said he wouldn't take over mid season. Doesn't mean they couldn't hire him for 2010 or talk to him about next year. I'm not sure they wouldn't just cut Zorn go and name an interim. No way you'd want it to be leaked that you have a new coach for next year when Zorn is still under contract.

I would guess Mike. No way they'd give it to Kyle, right?
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Old 12-17-2009, 09:57 PM   #548
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Has he ever drafted a quarterback, in the first round?
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Old 12-17-2009, 10:31 PM   #549
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We have no sixth. The price for Jason Taylor was a 2nd in 2009 and a 6th in 2010.

Skins trade for Dolphins' Taylor after Daniels goes down - NFL - ESPN
We don't have a 3rd rounder either
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Old 12-17-2009, 10:36 PM   #550
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Has he ever drafted a quarterback, in the first round?
No QB's. He has taken a WR (Clayton) and RB (Williams) in the first round, so he is not averse to taking offensive skill players. He has drafted a kicker, Janikowski, in the first round, although that may have been meddling by Undead Al Davis.

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Best assessment of Bruce!

It includes who he might hire as coach, Both good and bad Draft picks, FA signings and trades, players who should be worried about his arrival, and finally, a first stab at a potential Mock Draft.


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Best assessment of Bruce!

It includes who he might hire as coach, Both good and bad Draft picks, FA signings and trades, players who should be worried about his arrival, and finally, a first stab at a potential Mock Draft.


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And, I'm not him, but I like his work!
awesome link, good points, thanks
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:13 PM   #553
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Fyi Allen was NOT GM in Oakland. al Davis made all major decisions and Allen handled contracts and other technical issues.
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Fyi Allen was NOT GM in Oakland
your right he was a football executive and he won executive of the year in 2002, as well as other a few divisional championships. whats your point?
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Best assessment of Bruce!

It includes who he might hire as coach, Both good and bad Draft picks, FA signings and trades, players who should be worried about his arrival, and finally, a first stab at a potential Mock Draft.


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Good link, good read. He called Larry Michael a "Snyderette!" LMAO.

A buddy of mine is a video editor over at Comcast, and he text me today that one of the guys over there had inside info that Shanahan is a "done deal." Whatever that's worth.

I'd probably rather have Gruden, but I won't be mad at a two time Super Bowl winner coming in to take over coaching (hopefully with his son) with a true GM shopping for the groceries.
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