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Old 12-18-2009, 06:46 AM   #586
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honestly i really don't think any changes need to be made in the coaching staff. i know i'm probably in the minority but bringing in yet another coach means more change and possibly more set backs. make lewis the oc and let him call the plays and let zorn keep game planning and working with jc and i think we're on our way. i'd keep blache if he wants to stay, if not then hire grey as dc and let's keep things stable.
From what I understand, Lewis has said he does not want to stay beyond this year. I think he said that even before all of this
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:48 AM   #587
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Signs point to Mike Shanahan becoming the Redskins' next team president and head coach. The Denver Post on Thursday reported Shanahan has been in discussions to join the Redskins. As of early Friday morning, Shanahan and the Redskins did not have an agreement in place, a source with knowledge of the situation said
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From what I understand, Lewis has said he does not want to stay beyond this year. I think he said that even before all of this
Yep you are 100% right. Lewis made that well known when he was hired this year. Maybe a shame though, because the offense is suddenly clicking so well.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:38 AM   #589
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

It seems that Allen signing is a sign that Shanahan is coming, too.

Shanahan appears headed to Redskins - The Denver Post
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:48 AM   #590
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Why is everyone so excited about Shanahan?

His record:
LAR 1988 7 9 0 .438 3rd in AFC West - - - -
LAR 1989 1 3 0 .250 3rd in AFC West - - - -

DEN 1995 8 8 0 .500 3rd in AFC West - - - -
DEN 1996 13 3 0 .813 1st in AFC West 0 1 .000
Lost to Jacksonville Jaguars in AFC Divisional Game.
DEN 1997 12 4 0 .750 2nd in AFC West 4 0 1.000
Super Bowl XXXII Champions.
DEN 1998 14 2 0 .875 1st in AFC West 3 0 1.000
Super Bowl XXXIII Champions.
DEN 1999 6 10 0 .375 5th in AFC West - - - -
DEN 2000 11 5 0 .688 2nd in AFC West 0 1 .000
Lost to Baltimore Ravens in AFC Wild-Card Game.
DEN 2001 8 8 0 .500 3rd in AFC West - - - -
DEN 2002 9 7 0 .563 2nd in AFC West - - - -
DEN 2003 10 6 0 .625 2nd in AFC West 0 1 .000
Lost to Indianapolis Colts in AFC Wild-Card Game.
DEN 2004 10 6 0 .625 2nd in AFC West 0 1 .000
Lost to Indianapolis Colts in AFC Wild-Card Game.
DEN 2005 13 3 0 .813 1st in AFC West 1 1 .500
Lost to Pittsburgh Steelers in AFC Championship Game.
DEN 2006 9 7 0 .563 3rd in AFC West - - - -
DEN 2007 7 9 0 .438 2nd in AFC West - - - -
DEN 2008 8 8 0 .500 2nd in AFC West - - - -
DEN Total 138 86 0 .616 8 5 .615
Total[5] 146 98 0 .598 8 5 .615

He had Elway until 1998. Since Elway retired he's 91 - 69 (.568) in regular season and 1 -4 in the playoffs (.250).
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:14 AM   #591
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

And since 1998 and not counting this season, the Redskins are 74 - 86, I''ll take that 17 win improvement thanks
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And since 1998 and not counting this season, the Redskins are 74 - 86, I''ll take that 17 win improvement thanks
Skins are 2-3 (.400) in the playoffs. My point was he isn't much better than the carousel that's been here. If we're starting over why not aim for better than mediocre?
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Skins are 2-3 (.400) in the playoffs. My point was he isn't much better than the carousel that's been here. If we're starting over why not aim for better than mediocre?
Who did you have in mind?
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Cerrato will remain with the Redskins as a Snyder consultant - Cerrato will remain with the Redskins as a Snyder consultant | ProFootballTalk.com
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http://www.thewarpath.net/641652-post534.html (BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged)
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I hear it's hush money. DS just wants to keep Cerrato from flapping his gums.
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We don't have a 3rd rounder either
We do have a 3rd rounder. We used it already though. It was used on Jarmin. We got him early and he has playing time so he won't be a true rookie. Plus he actually looked good. Let him get healthy, build some more size and he will be a monster with Orakpo on the D-line.
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:16 AM   #598
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Skins are 2-3 (.400) in the playoffs. My point was he isn't much better than the carousel that's been here. If we're starting over why not aim for better than mediocre?
I am not thrilled by Shanahan, but he is an experienced Football professional . In all seriousness, even in Gibbs day we didn't win multiple playoff games every year, but we were always competitive and had a shot, and I think that's what Shanahan brings. Plus, we have a much better D for the next 3-5 years at least than Shanahan ever did.

The main thing, is that it is a return to NFL normalcy and a hopeful indication that DS is learning to be a good owner and not as meddlesome.
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:17 AM   #599
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Why is everyone so excited about Shanahan?

His record:
LAR 1988 7 9 0 .438 3rd in AFC West - - - -
LAR 1989 1 3 0 .250 3rd in AFC West - - - -

DEN 1995 8 8 0 .500 3rd in AFC West - - - -
DEN 1996 13 3 0 .813 1st in AFC West 0 1 .000
Lost to Jacksonville Jaguars in AFC Divisional Game.
DEN 1997 12 4 0 .750 2nd in AFC West 4 0 1.000
Super Bowl XXXII Champions.
DEN 1998 14 2 0 .875 1st in AFC West 3 0 1.000
Super Bowl XXXIII Champions.
DEN 1999 6 10 0 .375 5th in AFC West - - - -
DEN 2000 11 5 0 .688 2nd in AFC West 0 1 .000
Lost to Baltimore Ravens in AFC Wild-Card Game.
DEN 2001 8 8 0 .500 3rd in AFC West - - - -
DEN 2002 9 7 0 .563 2nd in AFC West - - - -
DEN 2003 10 6 0 .625 2nd in AFC West 0 1 .000
Lost to Indianapolis Colts in AFC Wild-Card Game.
DEN 2004 10 6 0 .625 2nd in AFC West 0 1 .000
Lost to Indianapolis Colts in AFC Wild-Card Game.
DEN 2005 13 3 0 .813 1st in AFC West 1 1 .500
Lost to Pittsburgh Steelers in AFC Championship Game.
DEN 2006 9 7 0 .563 3rd in AFC West - - - -
DEN 2007 7 9 0 .438 2nd in AFC West - - - -
DEN 2008 8 8 0 .500 2nd in AFC West - - - -
DEN Total 138 86 0 .616 8 5 .615
Total[5] 146 98 0 .598 8 5 .615

He had Elway until 1998. Since Elway retired he's 91 - 69 (.568) in regular season and 1 -4 in the playoffs (.250).
That all looks good to me. If you are solely judging a HC on SB wins then you will never find the perfect HC. To win the SB is a major accomplishment that requires many factors including luck. You should be looking for a guy that makes you competive which puts you in postion to win a SB, over 14 years in Den MS did that.

Bringing a team to the playoffs in the NFL is a big accomplishment, this is not the NBA or NHL were every team makes the playoffs.
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From what I read, it's just a way to keep Vinny from opening his mouth about the orginizations plans for the future, and anything that might have occured in the Haynesworth scandal. Vinny is out, just getting paid to be quite! I am still in such shock!
Vinny needs to worry about Vinny. "If" anything did go one in regards to the AH scandal and he opens his mouth he would be black balled. I'm sure most owners would not want to chance bringing him in and having him later running his mouth about their dirty laundry. About the ony team he would not be black balled from would be the Titans.

Honestly though if he really wants to be in football at any level Pro's, or college then he needs to simply walk away the bigger man (LOL) and say what happened at Redskins Park stays at Redskins Park. He would much more respected for it and might find a job with another team which needs his ability to work around the CAP even though it might be gone.
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