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BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

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Old 12-18-2009, 11:21 AM   #601
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What I know about Allen seems like a big improvement over Vinny. But here's the billion dollar question: is Allen a guy who will keep Snyder from meddling in the football decisions?
the junkies had the bucs beat writer (stroud - been covering the bucs before allen got there) on this morning (around 10:30ish) and he said allen did what the owner and HC wanted in tampa, that he was not a guy who would stand up to higher management.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:33 AM   #602
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the junkies had the bucs beat writer (stroud - been covering the bucs before allen got there) on this morning (around 10:30ish) and he said allen did what the owner and HC wanted in tampa, that he was not a guy who would stand up to higher management.

So what does that mean? In any company if you want to stay employed you will have to eventually go with what the owner wants. You can offer your opinion and make a case for it but in the end the owner holds the cards.

No one person is going to come to the Redskins and completely dominate Dan and his decisions, impossible.

Who do people want as GM Hitler??? It just blows my mind people are complaining about Bruce Allen when the guy probably doesn't even know what his office looks like yet. give him a chance.

Some people are just never fawking happy.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:37 AM   #603
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As I live in Raleigh and 90% of everyone i know is a panthers fan, i know everyone's hoping he comes to Carolina. As long as he doesn't go to Dallass, i'm happy.
So do you think they realistic going to get rid of Fox given the buyout situation? Just curious.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:55 AM   #604
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So what does that mean? In any company if you want to stay employed you will have to eventually go with what the owner wants. You can offer your opinion and make a case for it but in the end the owner holds the cards.

No one person is going to come to the Redskins and completely dominate Dan and his decisions, impossible.

Who do people want as GM Hitler??? It just blows my mind people are complaining about Bruce Allen when the guy probably doesn't even know what his office looks like yet. give him a chance.

Some people are just never fawking happy.
im not complaining or not happy with bruce allen.

the goat asked a question and the junkies had a bucs reporter on who made comments directly answering the goats question.

i was just saying what he said. relax buddy.
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So do you think they realistic going to get rid of Fox given the buyout situation? Just curious.
I honestly don't know enough about the "frugality" of the Panthers ownership, but in talking to my friends (who are honestly not "savvy" enough to get into the financial aspect of front office decisions), they feel Fox will be fired and they HOPE Cowher's the next guy. I don't think they feel Cowher to Carolina is about as much of a given as we feel Shanahan to Washington is - but from my point of view, i've always felt Cowher would end up in Carolina (despite how much i wish he'd be our next coach.). I've got no inside information, its just an opinion/gut feeling. I talk to my friends and i've read the same stuff online that you probably have.

At this point, i think Shanahan's coming here, Cowher's going to Carolina, and Gruden (despite the current contract situation) is going to Dallas. Watch me be wrong on all 3 counts.
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im not complaining or not happy with bruce allen.

the goat asked a question and the junkies had a bucs reporter on who made comments directly answering the goats question.

i was just saying what he said. relax buddy.

Was not completely direct at you, just tired of folks bitching.
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Old 12-18-2009, 12:43 PM   #607
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So what does that mean? In any company if you want to stay employed you will have to eventually go with what the owner wants. You can offer your opinion and make a case for it but in the end the owner holds the cards.

No one person is going to come to the Redskins and completely dominate Dan and his decisions, impossible.

Who do people want as GM Hitler??? It just blows my mind people are complaining about Bruce Allen when the guy probably doesn't even know what his office looks like yet. give him a chance.

Some people are just never fawking happy.
I understand being happy about Allen, but i think its fair to look at the history of both Allen and Snyder in determining what our "initial reactions" are. Allen was a yes-man in tampa, the only time he's ever held a GM position. And Snyder does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. As you said, we don't know what his office here will look like. We should give things a chance. I dont think anyone is saying this is absolutely going to be a complete failure. I just think its wise that we temper our joy and enthusiasm with some skepticism.

If the front office ends up looking like JLC's sources indicate, then we have something to be truly happy over. If DeCosta is brought in and Shanahan takes over, i'll be more happy that you can imagine. But if we end up with Allen and Gruden or Allen and a "small-name" coach, then, chances are, nothings really changed and we have vinny 2.0. Time will tell. But we certainly have more reason for optimism than we did 48 hours ago, that much is certain.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

BTW, JLC is going to be on ESPN980 within the next hour or so. Should be very interesting to see what his sources are telling him now.
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BTW, JLC is going to be on ESPN980 within the next hour or so. Should be very interesting to see what his sources are telling him now.
yeah waiting on this
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BTW, JLC is going to be on ESPN980 within the next hour or so. Should be very interesting to see what his sources are telling him now.
You're my hommie BHA, but if everything you say is true, then there's no point in being a Skins fan. We can't change owners.
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I'm really starting to hope that they bring in Doug Williams to the front office. If anything we need more people that understand what Redskins football is all about and I think Doug Williams understands that. On top of that I remember Jeff Bostic talking on America's Game about how the offensive line preferred Doug Williams, mainly because he respected the O-Line, where as Jay Schroeder could have cared less. Combine that with the fact that Tampa drafted multiple O-Lineman early during the Allen/Williams/Gruden era and I think we have a chance to get back on track.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Cerrato resigns (Bruce Allen hired as VP/GM) - merged

I just spend 2 hrs reading all 620 posts.

My points:
Cerrato is gone!! That is awesome since it was the #2 problem with the team
(#1 being Snyder) THIS IS the biggest good news since Gibbs came back!!

Some other guy was hired....apparantly he is ok, but no superstar...
Well...who cares? We all thought Cerrato was a suckwad...and he is...so basically 90% of anyone interviewed would have been better....Bruce Allen will be....not to mention he has REDSKINS BLOOD running through his veins.

Lets now work on problem #3....our sucky head coach
...then on problem #4...our sucky Oline....then problem #5....OLB, RB, FS, WR, QB depth, WR coach, bad skins PR, etc.

It is time to enjoy the day!

I would support any headcoaching hire that our GM selects.
I am done with Zorn...I am so sick of seeing him on the sidelines looking like he is about to cry...the guy is a wimp...he has no "GUTS"....stay medium?
What the hell is that?....strictly QB coach talk....would Lombardi say that?
Would Gibbs? We need a LEGITAMATE HEAD COACH.
Bring it on MR SNYDER!!!

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I'm really starting to hope that they bring in Doug Williams to the front office. If anything we need more people that understand what Redskins football is all about and I think Doug Williams understands that. On top of that I remember Jeff Bostic talking on America's Game about how the offensive line preferred Doug Williams, mainly because he respected the O-Line, where as Jay Schroeder could have cared less. Combine that with the fact that Tampa drafted multiple O-Lineman early during the Allen/Williams/Gruden era and I think we have a chance to get back on track.
I feel the same way. My only problem is Redskins football is hard nosed smash mouth football. As much as we all would like to have that again, we actually have been trying to get/keep that since Gibbs1 left.

Shanahan has always had a great running team but I wouldn't call it hard nosed smash mouth football. It's more of a finess style of offense.
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I feel the same way. My only problem is Redskins football is hard nosed smash mouth football. As much as we all would like to have that again, we actually have been trying to get/keep that since Gibbs1 left.

Shanahan has always had a great running team but I wouldn't call it hard nosed smash mouth football. It's more of a finess style of offense.
How about just having a winning football team?
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I feel the same way. My only problem is Redskins football is hard nosed smash mouth football. As much as we all would like to have that again, we actually have been trying to get/keep that since Gibbs1 left.

Shanahan has always had a great running team but I wouldn't call it hard nosed smash mouth football. It's more of a finess style of offense.
I tend to think Shanny's running scheme fits the WCO offense better, though this is just speculation. For as long as I can remember our running game worked best when we had real bruising insiders i.e. when Dock and Thomas were in their prime at each G spot. Meanwhile our WR corp wasn't dominant enough to keep the defense from just throwing 8 guys in the box most plays. Shanny's run scheme always seemed to thrive of misdirection so throwing 8 guys in the box doesn't have the same potency. Meanwhile his scheme has always made the WR corp better which takes pressure off the run game.

With Shanahan, assuming he's here to win not just collect one final payday, I think our offense is just a couple good lineman away from consistent production. I hope we maintain a strong defensive unit to compliment it.
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