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| Re: Marriage made in heaven? I don't necessarily think so. I mean Williams seems to be ok, but I don't know that he's much better than what we have now. Williams hasn't had the full responsibility of overseeing an entire draft, which is different from picking and choosing certain players. I mean it's one thing to say I'm going to paint this room, and another to say I'm going to build this house.
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| Re: Marriage made in heaven? He has a great rapport with the players. They trust him, they respect him.
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| Re: Marriage made in heaven? Scott Campbell reportedly leaving as well. From nearly promoted to out the door. Can't confirm that yet though
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| Re: Marriage made in heaven? How about Morocco? I hope he's staying.
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| Re: Marriage made in heaven? I think he's staying but I don't know.
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| Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md.
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| The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 61
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| Re: Marriage made in heaven? One thing I can say with certainty is I am not LDS!
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| Naega jeil jal naga ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27
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| Re: Marriage made in heaven? "Marriages are not made in heaven, they're made in hell." -What Gene Simmons would say.
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| Re: Marriage made in heaven? Quote:
I'm not expert on this but I don't think there is too much difference in the styles. Both Gruden and Zorn learned under Holmgren so if there's anyone wanting to keep maybe some sort of continuity Gruden might be a better fit. But both learned how to coach under Holmgren. Zorn being the smiley please and thank you HC. Gruden being the hard nosed frowner. Shanahan actually learned under Walsh like Holmgren did when he was in San Fran. Shanahan learned from the Master him self like Holmgren did. Shanahan might have picked up some tips here and there that makes the WCO work better. At this point I don't think it really matters. If we are going to clean house with most of the high priced prima dona's then Shanahan is probably the way to go. Call it "Rebuild" mode and have a 3 to 5 year plan. If we are not going to clean house then Gruden might be better to put those players in their place vs. holding their hands. Zorn is a dead man walking. No way he is staying, for what? to be demoted to QB coach? Sherm Lewis would be an interesting prospect for Gruden to have as an OC. Lewis learned under Walsh as well while with the 49ers. Two inovative minds might come up with some good plays. | |
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| Re: Marriage made in heaven? the shanahan crew is comming, i wonder what's going to happen to the defensive coaches?
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| Re: Marriage made in heaven? I guess the REAL question in all of this is: What about Hixon? |
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| Re: Marriage made in heaven? Quote:
We can only hope.
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Gruden turned the Raiders around, and since his departure they have fallen apart again. He "discovered" Rich Gannon, who was a perennial back up prior to signing with the Raiders, and turned him into a pro-bowler. In 4 seasons with the Raiders he went deep into the playoffs twice and went 40-28, with a unproven quarterback. With Tampa he had Brad Johnson as qb, this is probably the best QB he has worked with. He went to the playoffs 3 times. Most amazingly Chris Simms was his qb in 2005 and took them to the playoffs with a 11-5 record (Chris Simms?!). He had a couple bad seasons with Tampa, but a lot of that is due (as many others have mentioned) Tampa not spending money, and a case of the injury bug. I always thought of Gruden as somewhat of a quarterbacks-whore. But I cant really blame him, he has never really had a great qb to work with – just a whole bunch of Trent Dilfers. Considering the things Gruden has done with Gannon, Johnson, and Simms (let alone the other fill-ins he’s had) imagine what he could do with Campbell. Sherm learned from the originator of the westcoast, Bill Walsh. Gruden learned from Holmgren and may be a little more innovative. Together they could be a really nice combo of old and new.
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| Re: Marriage made in heaven? Actually in 92 Walsh was not coaching the 49ers, Seifert was and before that Shanahan learned from Dan Reeves in Denver.
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