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Old 12-18-2009, 10:54 AM   #61
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Shanahan isnt gonna fix what isn't broke!
As much as i'd love to keep Gray as DC (Blache needs to go), i'd be shocked if Shanahan didn't bring in someone from the outside. He's going to want his people here.
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As much as i'd love to keep Gray as DC (Blache needs to go), i'd be shocked if Shanahan didn't bring in someone from the outside. He's going to want his people here.
I would be shocked if he fired Blache. The biggest qusestion I have is would Blache want to continue to coach.
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The way Snyder feels about Blache and Gray, they may get a shot. I think they have some respect around the NFL. Of course if Snyder has truly learned, it won't be his decision to make.
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Or as I said, give a minority coach or young executive the opportunity to get the interview experience. For instance, Morocco Brown may not have had a shot at the GM position...or maybe he would have...but he got the chance to interview with an NFL owner about the GM position.
That's one way to look at it; however I look at that as "taking lemons and trying to make lemonade." It doesn't change the underlying truth that discrimination is taking place - minority coaches (or execs) get token interviews while non-minority coaches don't. Or, on the flip side - minority coaches get manipulated when they have no chance of getting a job; where as non-minoirty coaches arent.

I may be naive, but I don't think the rule, as its currently designed, has ever done any good. Mike Tomlin was not a Rooney-Rule Interview. He would have been interviewed regardless of his skin color. However, we all know no one has ever seriously considered hiring Ron Meeks to be their head coach. Yet, he interviews for jobs every year. Its a sham and its degrading.
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Look, people are looking at Shanahan just as a coach, but also look at some of the players he's drafted the past few years, All Pro LT Ryan Clady, Jay Cutler, Eddie Royal,
Brandon Marshall, Tony Scheffler, Ryan Harris (starting RT), Elvis Dumervil, Domenik Hixon (now of the Giants), Dominique Foxworth, the late darrent williams, and DJ Williams. Thats from 2004 to 2008. Thats pretty damn good team of players if you ask me.
that is a very good sign
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Wouldn't he get paid though if he were to be fired?
I believe so, which is why he might not accept a demotion if it meant a proportionate salary decrease.
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that is a very good sign
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I would be shocked if he fired Blache. The biggest qusestion I have is would Blache want to continue to coach.
Id certainly prefer continuity but why would you be shocked? Do they have some connection i'm not aware of? Shanahan goes through defenisve coordinators like jon gruden goes through quarterbacks and tiger woods goes through mistresses.
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Rooney Rule=Equal Employment Opportunity Every job you apply to has this rule, so therefore same thing goes for the NFL.
Didn't Jim Caldwell have the Indi job handed to him on a plate?

Shouldn't they have had to interview a non-minority candidate?
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Didn't Jim Caldwell have the Indi job handed to him on a plate?

Shouldn't they have had to interview a non-minority candidate?
I guess you could say the same thing in Seattle were Jim Mora Jr. was named the successor before Holmgren was gone.
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I would be shocked if he fired Blache. The biggest qusestion I have is would Blache want to continue to coach.
Blache seems so hard to gauge with the way he acts. Doesnt want to talk to the media b/c he is fed up...but comes to the defense of his Owner and then talks about the love he has for his players in regards to the probowl. I remember hearing several years ago he had to be talked back into staying in Washington and was going to retire. I would like him to stay, I like his ass kicking approach to the players, even if it ruffles some feathers (Carlos)...And Dan Snyder seems to love the guy
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Look, people are looking at Shanahan just as a coach, but also look at some of the players he's drafted the past few years, All Pro LT Ryan Clady, Jay Cutler, Eddie Royal,
Brandon Marshall, Tony Scheffler, Ryan Harris (starting RT), Elvis Dumervil, Domenik Hixon (now of the Giants), Dominique Foxworth, the late darrent williams, and DJ Williams. Thats from 2004 to 2008. Thats pretty damn good team of players if you ask me.
He's definitely got a good track record and i think, if hired, his record is much more relevent than Allen's alleged record. I'm really hoping JLC's report that we're looking at bringing in DeCosta is true as well.

I only really have two concerns with Shanahan has our HC

1) his lines in denver were always the smaller, more agile type and i'm not sure that type of line would hold up well in this division.

2) He'll get rid of our defensive staff and system and our defenses will be as instable as his were in Denver. If Shanahan can somehow be convinced to keep our system in place with either Blache or Gray as coordinator, and Shanahan sticks to running the offense (our defenses have pretty much had full autonomy for most of the past decade), then we're not far off from being a truly great team again.
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I think the Shanahan ("The Rat" look when he smiles, Raiders call him that) rumor is pretty much a done deal, the move to get Bruce Allen with 3 games left on the season is to get a jump on someone like the Cowboys who are also rumored to be enamored with Shanahan. Probably after they play SD, as soon as the game is over, Zorn is fired and Shanahan is named HC. That's my theory.
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He's definitely got a good track record and i think, if hired, his record is much more relevent than Allen's alleged record. I'm really hoping JLC's report that we're looking at bringing in DeCosta is true as well.

I only really have two concerns with Shanahan has our HC

1) his lines in denver were always the smaller, more agile type and i'm not sure that type of line would hold up well in this division.

2) He'll get rid of our defensive staff and system and our defenses will be as instable as his were in Denver. If Shanahan can somehow be convinced to keep our system in place with either Blache or Gray as coordinator, and Shanahan sticks to running the offense (our defenses have pretty much had full autonomy for most of the past decade), then we're not far off from being a truly great team again.
One thing you can't argue is Denver's ability to run the ball. I would think it would be a major upgrade for us. We haven't been real consistent in that dept although we've had some good years. Denver's been pretty good in that dept no matter the division.
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If we get Shanahan, he'll definetely bring his guys to coach the O. He'd be smart not to mess with our D but as BHA pointed out, his DC's come and go. If he doesn't, Blache, depending on if he still wants to coach is our DC, if not it's Gray. Very simple
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