Report: Shanahan in Talks with Redskins

mlmpetert

Yeah at some point. I dont think when my grandmother (Grammy) fled Czechoslovakia she ever thought there would be a black (or communist! (j/k)) American president in her lifetime, at least 50 years ago.

I think the point SBXVII is making is that whenever you make a decision to hire someone it should be based solely on merit and skin color or sex (imagine a female coach, now that’s progressive!) shouldn’t play a part in that decision. The government is saying that it should. Things like the affirmative action or the Rooney Rule (not govt. right?) say hey race needs to be considered when making a hiring decision. I think in the case of affirmative action, when 2 equally qualified persons apply for a job where one is a white male and the other is not the person who is not has to get the job for certain size organizations. Obviously the Rooney Rule doesn’t go this far, but I guess other rules go further like many public colleges in their application decisions. So its just however you want to run your organization. That’s cool with me, its your organization.

I personally have no beef with the Rooney Rule, but like all the other rules it gives the impression (to some ignorant individuals) that minorities have to be given a shot because they cant make it on merit alone. If they just make the rules indifferent based on race, and say everyone had to be given a equal chance. So if the Rooney Rule said white males had to be interviewed also (which in this day-and-age wouldn’t change anything), it would remove a lot of the perceived notions that minorities cant get it done on their own, or all owners are raciest, or Danny Snyder has to get the biggest named coach before looking anywhere else first.

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InsaneBoost

I think this is all for next season, he already said he wasn't taking a team over during the season. So I'm sure this will just be for next year, all fine by me.

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tryfuhl

Don't look at it as a stomp on opportunity. Without the rule it was okay to interview minorities too. There were black coaches before the rule. I don't have a problem with the Rooney Rule existing but it's a bit demeaning when a team has who they want or a shortlist, and if it doesn't include a minority, them having to find one.

There's nothing wrong with having a black coach, a white coach, a hispanic coach, whatever the case may be. There is something wrong if you have to interview a minority but don't have to interview a non-minority though in my opinion. Either way the better guy should get the job, but let it work both ways.

InsaneBoost

Looking good.

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tryfuhl

To be a fly on that wall...

Nomad

I'm stoked....... Guy's and this is to everyone! Do you know that we will have s Superb Team next year, or Offense will be in the top 10 and Our D will be in the top 5, can you say Division Champs!!!!!! Now Tell me, everyone can't get down with that!!!!!!

SBXVII

No I never said they should be stuck on the field. As a matter of fact I agreed that minorities don't get a fair shake most of the time. I agreed minorities may even be the better qualified HC or GM. I agreed the Rooney Rule is a bunch of garbage cause it's not fixing what the NFL meant to accomplish.

What I added was that the Gov. affirmitive action is just as discriminatory as some of the owners or managers of businesses who would not hire someone because they were a minority. It's discriminatory for two reasons..
1. being that the affirmitive action law basically tells business that they have to have a certain % of minorities working for the company. Although it was a good law when it was designed and has good intentions it's doing exactly what it was meant to try and stop from happening...discrimination.

2. I mentioned that any law designed around the idea of helping any one group of people and not all people is not only discriminatory to the rest, it's demeaning to the very people it was designed to help. Would you rather get a job cause you worked hard, did good work, and had great evaluations regarding your work or would you rather get the job cause you fit the billet that your a minority and they need you to satisfy their % of minorities who work for the company? I'm not being nieve and saying discrimination does not happen so don't be nieve that people are not hired simply to fill a statistical need.

Sorry if you took it wrong. Sorry if you don't get my point. I know there is discrimination and it's not fair, but the Gov. who is supposed to be fair to all people can't be designing laws that are fair to only one group of people and not all people.

How can discrimination be fixed so that all people are treated fairly? I don't know.

InsaneBoost

lol.

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Mattyk

Back on topic please

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BigHairedAristocrat

while i'm happy about Shanahan being hired, i simply don't understand the timing. How can you hire a head coach when you already have one who's getting the ready for a MNF game?

If Shanahan is hired in any capacity, Zorn had better be fired immediately. There's simply no justification for stringing him along any more. I know Snyder needs to do whats best for the franchise long term, but there's got to be some decency displayed here. I'll be disgusted if Shanahan is hired as Team President and Zorn stays on to coach 3 games, then is fired and Shanahan becomes the head coach.

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BigHairedAristocrat

Smoot, where are you? LOL

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SBXVII

Hopefull out there talking to his peeps getting the inside scoop.

InsaneBoost

I'm hoping we get Shanahan though, man is an offensive genius. Our defense is on par as it usually is, add in a good offense, oh my lord.

Back to the good ol days!

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