Report: Shanahan to DC done deal

rbanerjee23 · 12-20-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I don't know if this is really true, but according to Jay Glazer, he said that John Lynch was at the owners meetings and Jim Zorn was at the table with Dan Snyder and Snyder had Lynch come over and say to him "So tell me everything about Mike Shanahan, do you think he'd be a good head coach for him?" This was with Zorn sitting right next to him at the table.

Wow, if this is true, then it is the height of the dickery that Dan Snyder has come to represent. You are disrespecting the guy so much already but to do that is just unbelievably uncool

skinsnut · 12-20-2009, 02:22 PM

Hey guys...question.
If Shanny wants his son in the same role with the Skins...isn't that a problem contracturally?

I thought you could only go after another teams coordinator if you gave them a promotion?

Mattyk · 12-20-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsnut

Hey guys...question.
If Shanny wants his son in the same role with the Skins...isn't that a problem contracturally?

I thought you could only go after another teams coordinator if you gave them a promotion?

They'll just give him a fancy title, assistant HC/OC

irish · 12-20-2009, 02:31 PM

I dont have a problem with them hiring Shanny but I cant stop thinking what did he do once Elway left. Shanny, like Cowher once he got Big Ben, did great with a superstar QB but once his superstar retired he was never quite the same and one thing he doesnt have here is a superstar QB.

SmootSmack · 12-20-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

Wow, if this is true, then it is the height of the dickery that Dan Snyder has come to represent. You are disrespecting the guy so much already but to do that is just unbelievably uncool

I think Jay Glazer is one of the best out there...but I'm not sure that's true. It doesn't quite add up for various reasons. Glazer is the only one reporting it, which doesn't mean it's not true of coures.

As for Kyle Shanahan, he might not even be retained by Houston if they make coaching changes at the end of the year. And if the Texans do want to keep him they basically would need to make him head coach to keep him from coming to DC as Assistant Head Coach.

If Shanahan (Mike) somehow ends up in Dallas and JJ convinces him to keep Garrett and his salary...I wouldn't be opposed to Kyle Shanahan here, provided we give him an experienced staff to help him out. How about Kyle as HC, and Kubiak as Offensive Coordinator

CRedskinsRule · 12-20-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I don't know if this is really true, but according to Jay Glazer, he said that John Lynch was at the owners meetings and Jim Zorn was at the table with Dan Snyder and Snyder had Lynch come over and say to him "So tell me everything about Mike Shanahan, do you think he'd be a good head coach for him?" This was with Zorn sitting right next to him at the table.

How long did Lynch play for Shanahan? Why would Snyder seek out his opinion? That doesn't make much sense to me, it is a shame if it happened that way.

edit: I could see VC having the audacity to do that in the last month to try and re-emphasize his standing (bye vinny

)

BigHairedAristocrat · 12-20-2009, 02:56 PM

According to glazer, shanahan wants the Dallas job bad. I'd put our chances of landing him at about 15%

skinsnut · 12-20-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

According to glazer, shanahan wants the Dallas job bad. I'd put our chances of landing him at about 15%

HUH?
Please document your sources...everyone else seems to think the opposite...such as 85% shanny will take skins vs 15% cowboys.
Are the Cowboys even looking for a coach at this point?
They may make the playoffs

SmootSmack · 12-20-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

According to glazer, shanahan wants the Dallas job bad. I'd put our chances of landing him at about 15%

15% because Glazer says Shanahan wants the Dallas job?

BigHairedAristocrat · 12-20-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

15% because Glazer says Shanahan wants the Dallas job?

Yeah... isn't Glazer supposed to be tight with Shanahan? Dallas makes more sense for Shanahan for a number of reasons -

1. Dalls is not, historically, as dysfunctional of a franchise as Washington.
2. Dallas is viewed as being an "elite" franchise. Washington is not.
3. Dallas has a Franchise Quarterback. We dont.
4. Dallas has a trio of young, talented running backs. We don't even have one.
5. Shanahan wants to coach with his son, who is currently in Houston. If Shanahan coaches in Dallas, his son and family won't have to move. If Kyle has children, i imagine this could be very important.
6. Snyder is historically impatient. Shanahan turned down Snyder in this past off-season because he thought Zorn deserved more time. Jerry Jones has been very patient with his coaches, so Shanhan (and by extension, his son) will have more job security there.
7. We have all been assuming that, since Shanahan wanted to work with Allen in Buffalo, that Allen's hiring here meant Shanahan was next. However, what if thats not the case at all? What if Snyder found out that Shanahan wanted to work with Allen, and then went out and hired Allen. That, given the number of times Shanahan has reportedly already turned down Shanahan, would likely make him feel pressured and annoyed. All the more reason to sign elsewhere.
8. Allen's contract allegedly gives him final say on who the redskins draft. If the reports that Shanahan wants total control are true, then he's not going anywhere where HE doesn't have final say.

BigHairedAristocrat · 12-20-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think Jay Glazer is one of the best out there...but I'm not sure that's true. It doesn't quite add up for various reasons. Glazer is the only one reporting it, which doesn't mean it's not true of coures.

As for Kyle Shanahan, he might not even be retained by Houston if they make coaching changes at the end of the year. And if the Texans do want to keep him they basically would need to make him head coach to keep him from coming to DC as Assistant Head Coach.

If Shanahan (Mike) somehow ends up in Dallas and JJ convinces him to keep Garrett and his salary...I wouldn't be opposed to Kyle Shanahan here, provided we give him an experienced staff to help him out. How about Kyle as HC, and Kubiak as Offensive Coordinator

I don't know how kubiak would feel reporting to someone that used to report to him. that would be a recipe for lockerroom trouble if you ask me. Besides, why would Shanahan want to keep Garrett over his own son? And why would his son want to coach a division rival of his father's team? it seems like it would create all sorts of family problems. For one, Kyle couldn't go to his dad for advice. Neither could really talk to the other about what was going on at work. Using my scientific method of reasoning, Id put the chances of that scenario happening at about 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%

SmootSmack · 12-20-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Yeah... isn't Glazer supposed to be tight with Shanahan? Dallas makes more sense for Shanahan for a number of reasons -

1. Dalls is not, historically, as dysfunctional of a franchise as Washington.
2. Dallas is viewed as being an "elite" franchise. Washington is not.
3. Dallas has a Franchise Quarterback. We dont.
4. Dallas has a trio of young, talented running backs. We don't even have one.
5. Shanahan wants to coach with his son, who is currently in Houston. If Shanahan coaches in Dallas, his son and family won't have to move. If Kyle has children, i imagine this could be very important.
6. Snyder is historically impatient. Shanahan turned down Snyder in this past off-season because he thought Zorn deserved more time. Jerry Jones has been very patient with his coaches, so Shanhan (and by extension, his son) will have more job security there.
7. We have all been assuming that, since Shanahan wanted to work with Allen in Buffalo, that Allen's hiring here meant Shanahan was next. However, what if thats not the case at all? What if Snyder found out that Shanahan wanted to work with Allen, and then went out and hired Allen. That, given the number of times Shanahan has reportedly already turned down Shanahan, would likely make him feel pressured and annoyed. All the more reason to sign elsewhere.
8. Allen's contract allegedly gives him final say on who the redskins draft. If the reports that Shanahan wants total control are true, then he's not going anywhere where HE doesn't have final say.

Schefter is tight with Shanahan. Don't know about Glazer per se

1. All about perception I suppose
2. See #1
3. Ok, I'll cede that one for now
4. We have Quinton Ganther you ingoramus!!!!
5. Won't matter if Shanahan is let go by Houston. Plus Houston and Dallas aren't exactly next door (closer than to DC of course). Kyle has a two year old daughter so I don't think it will be an issue to move her.
6. Ok
7. Interesting theory
8. Shanahan won't necessarily get more control in Dallas with Jones continuing to serve as GM

SmootSmack · 12-20-2009, 04:59 PM

If Kyle Shanahan gets a head coaching opportunity, I really doubt he'd care if his dad was coaching a team in the same division

BigHairedAristocrat · 12-20-2009, 05:03 PM

We are redskins fans, so our perception on what franchise is more "elite" is somewhat skewed. I live in North Carolina and pretty much everyone here thinks the skins are a big joke. When I go to sports bars, the most common Jerseys I see, are, of course, Panthers jerseys. Cowboys are a CLOSE #2. Regarding Jone's control in Dalls, he stepped back somewhat when Parcells was coach, i'm sure he would do the same for Shanahan if it became a sticking point.

Even if Jones doesn't view Shanahan as his ideal coach, he simply can't "afford" to let the skins land him. If he did and Jones went with Garret or someother inexperienced HC, Dallas would most certainly be at the bottom of the NFC East for a few years. Putting aside the fact that Jones has alot of pride, loves his team, and wants to win - being in 4th place isn't going to fill that big fancy new stadium to capacity week in and week out.

tryfuhl · 12-20-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

....JGibbs1 went 0-5 re-evaluated his scheme and changed it to work with the players he had. That's the mark of a great HC. .

Exactly. Gibbs was a Coryell guy (think Al Saunders for those that don't know) and ended up with a power smash-mouth offense.

12-20-2009, 02:22 PM	#212
skinsnut The Starter Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,172	Re: Report: Shanahan to DC done deal Hey guys...question. If Shanny wants his son in the same role with the Skins...isn't that a problem contracturally? I thought you could only go after another teams coordinator if you gave them a promotion? __________________ I hate Dallas...Period

12-20-2009, 02:31 PM	#214
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,328	Re: Report: Shanahan to DC done deal I dont have a problem with them hiring Shanny but I cant stop thinking what did he do once Elway left. Shanny, like Cowher once he got Big Ben, did great with a superstar QB but once his superstar retired he was never quite the same and one thing he doesnt have here is a superstar QB.

12-20-2009, 02:56 PM	#217
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,812	Re: Report: Shanahan to DC done deal According to glazer, shanahan wants the Dallas job bad. I'd put our chances of landing him at about 15% __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

12-20-2009, 04:59 PM	#223
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,097	Re: Report: Shanahan to DC done deal If Kyle Shanahan gets a head coaching opportunity, I really doubt he'd care if his dad was coaching a team in the same division __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

12-20-2009, 05:03 PM	#224
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,812	Re: Report: Shanahan to DC done deal We are redskins fans, so our perception on what franchise is more "elite" is somewhat skewed. I live in North Carolina and pretty much everyone here thinks the skins are a big joke. When I go to sports bars, the most common Jerseys I see, are, of course, Panthers jerseys. Cowboys are a CLOSE #2. Regarding Jone's control in Dalls, he stepped back somewhat when Parcells was coach, i'm sure he would do the same for Shanahan if it became a sticking point. Even if Jones doesn't view Shanahan as his ideal coach, he simply can't "afford" to let the skins land him. If he did and Jones went with Garret or someother inexperienced HC, Dallas would most certainly be at the bottom of the NFC East for a few years. Putting aside the fact that Jones has alot of pride, loves his team, and wants to win - being in 4th place isn't going to fill that big fancy new stadium to capacity week in and week out. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

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