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Old 12-22-2009, 12:11 PM   #331
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Why wouldn't they fire Zorn now and bring in a new head coach? Why not? They're going to fire him anyway. Let the new coach start bringing in people now. The last two games could be to see who makes the team.
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:14 PM   #332
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Why wouldn't they fire Zorn now and bring in a new head coach? Why not? They're going to fire him anyway. Let the new coach start bringing in people now. The last two games could be to see who makes the team.
Most of the assistant coaches are on other teams. We would have to wait till the seasons over to interview them.
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I would like to get rid of everyone, except for Kirk Olivadotti and Danny Smith. The rest can go bye, bye.

Why would you want to keep Danny Smith?
Have we had one return cross midfield?
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Danny Smith has done a good job of devising special teams plays. I like the guy.
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Most of the assistant coaches are on other teams. We would have to wait till the seasons over to interview them.
True, but the new coach could also see which coaches on our roster are worthy of keeping. Call me crazy, but I say none of them.
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Danny Smith has done a good job of devising special teams plays. I like the guy.
like the one from last nights game? or how he trots out A.R.E to return punts? Smith needs to join the rest of these lame ducks
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I have to ask who you would prefer also...

Spurrier was not a big named coach. He was supposed to be the big up and comer out of college which is why we got him. He failed miserably.

Zorn was supposed to be the non big name up and comer offensively. Supposedly other coach's in the league said Zorn would be a great pick for OC. He was going to be a great minded coach. Unfortunatly we picked up and moved him to HC.

Now it sounds like you want the GM to make the call.....what if he picks a big name? or a no name? will you be satisfied knowing finally DS is doing it the right way and allowing a GM to build a team or are you going to complain for what ever reason? I mean I prefer Schottenheimer. I don't see us picking him. I prefer Gruden next, but he's supposedly tied up in his contract.

But I'm atleast happy the team is finally going to do it the right way hopefully by picking a GM.
I agree that Snyder backing the eff off is great thing. I was listening to 980 early this morning, and Hanrahan was saying that Bruce Allen's job won't really be personnel. He's going to be an administrative guy, handling organizational structure, player contracts, things of that nature.

As far as picking players, they were saying that will be in large part Mike Shanahan's job. That concerns me a bit. He wasn't a great personnel guy in Denver by any means. Shanahan will also likely be team president. I guess I'm worried about how expansive his role will be. I'm much rather he just coach, but then again if that's all we wanted from him we probably couldn't get him.
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You know, one of the big fears i had about Shanahan is that he'd get rid of our defensive coaching staff, but at this point, i think all our coaches need to go. Haynesworth and Orakpo are grossly mis-used. Our DBs - many of whome are talented - can't cover at all. I agree its time to completely clean house. I think Kirk Olivadotti and Jerry Gray have bright futures... but i think a complete staff overhaul is necessary to "right the ship."
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You know, one of the big fears i had about Shanahan is that he'd get rid of our defensive coaching staff, but at this point, i think all our coaches need to go. Haynesworth and Orakpo are grossly mis-used. Our DBs - many of whome are talented - can't cover at all. I agree its time to completely clean house. I think Kirk Olivadotti and Jerry Gray have bright futures... but i think a complete staff overhaul is necessary to "right the ship."
I think Blache lost his job last night.
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I think Blache lost his job last night.
i hope you're right.
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I agree that Snyder backing the eff off is great thing. I was listening to 980 early this morning, and Hanrahan was saying that Bruce Allen's job won't really be personnel. He's going to be an administrative guy, handling organizational structure, player contracts, things of that nature.

As far as picking players, they were saying that will be in large part Mike Shanahan's job. That concerns me a bit. He wasn't a great personnel guy in Denver by any means. Shanahan will also likely be team president. I guess I'm worried about how expansive his role will be. I'm much rather he just coach, but then again if that's all we wanted from him we probably couldn't get him.
Allen will have two main focuses. First get rid of all the dead weight on the team. Then he will make sure the coach gets what they need, which is not always the same thing as what they want. Gruden has talked about this before. How he and Allen would go back and forth a lot because Allen was determined to make sure Gruden had the right players he needed, but not always what he wanted.

I'd also prefer that Shanahan just coach, but as you say it's not possible to just get him as head coach. I'm curious to see what happens with the staff below Allen.
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I think Blache lost his job last night.

I hope your right. We have a lot of talent in that secondary and they have looked pathetic recently.

I am convinced that almost all of our secondary problems are coaching. Landry needs fundamental retraining. He is missing tackles by two yards.
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True, but the new coach could also see which coaches on our roster are worthy of keeping. Call me crazy, but I say none of them.
Nobody is going to come in with 2 games left. Trying to make a transition right now would be a total cluster F.
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Nobody is going to come in with 2 games left. Trying to make a transition right now would be a total cluster F.
So what's the difference?
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Allen will have two main focuses. First get rid of all the dead weight on the team. Then he will make sure the coach gets what they need, which is not always the same thing as what they want. Gruden has talked about this before. How he and Allen would go back and forth a lot because Allen was determined to make sure Gruden had the right players he needed, but not always what he wanted.

I'd also prefer that Shanahan just coach, but as you say it's not possible to just get him as head coach. I'm curious to see what happens with the staff below Allen.
Right now, we've got picks in rounds 1, 2, 4, 5, and 7 in the 2010 draft. Compensatory picks aside, I wonder what we'll have on draft day. Some guys will be cut outright, but I also think we'll see some "surprising" trades (and i'm not just talking about Cooley or Davis).
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