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Old 01-04-2010, 05:13 PM   #751
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why not bring in Rob Ryan as DC
You know I wondered the same thing other then he runs a 3-4 and I wasn't sure if we wanted to change. Plus he is currently with the Browns and I don't think his contract is up so we would have to give him one of those fancy smancy names. Then I looked at the Browns and wonder why would we want them when teams have found ways to beat them. Unless they don't really have the personel to run it effectively. But I too keep wondering would Rob Ryan work out?
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The only problem is Shanahan runs the WCO which JC has been under for the last 2 yrs. Cowher runs a Schottenheimer style offense. We basically would be definitly starting completely over most likely with terminology as well. If we stay with Shanahan the turn over would be less stressful on the players and they might adjust to it quicker since they have been already running a WCO.
Campbell actually was "born" to play cowher's shottenheimer-style offense. Wherever Cowher ends up, I would not at all be surprised to see Campbell follow him. Campbell was DRAFTED to play in a shottenheimer-style offense and he spent the first years in the NFL in that type of offense. the WCO actually exposes alot of his faults. He's gotten better at it, but its still not "comfortable" for him. in any case, Campbell has been in enough offenses in his career, i really doubt there's anything that will be "new" to him at this point. (Un?)fortunately, the chances of Campbell being the Redskins QB next year appear slim, so it really doesnt matter.
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Rob Ryan spent four seasons (2000-03) as linebackers coach on Bill Belichick's New England coaching staff. Ryan's unit helped contribute to Patriots wins in Super Bowls XXXVI and XXXVIII. Did a great job as The Oakland Raiders coordinator.
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Shanahan already picking Redskins staff
By Mark J. Miller

Washington Redskins head coach Jim Zorn supposedly added the word "former" to his title this morning and now it's just a matter of time before Mike Shanahan is named as the head coach in D.C.

He may not be in charge just yet, but Shanahan is already putting together his coaching staff, according to the Washington Examiner. Before Shanahan can be named, though, the Redskins have to reportedly interview secondary coach Jerry Gray again for the position, according to the Washington Post. When Gray was interviewed previously, it was before new general manager Bruce Allen had joined the club so he apparently needs to speak with Allen so that the team will comply with the Rooney Rule, which requires teams to interview minority candidates for all top jobs, though in this case that process seems like a farce.

Shanahan will apparently have his son, Kyle Shanahan, leaving his spot as offensive coordinator with the Houston Texans to serve the same role with the Redskins. And Cincinnati Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer is apparently going to be the guy in charge on that side of the ball for D.C. as soon as Shanahan takes over.

Source: Washington Examiner
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Campbell actually was "born" to play cowher's shottenheimer-style offense. Wherever Cowher ends up, I would not at all be surprised to see Campbell follow him. Campbell was DRAFTED to play in a shottenheimer-style offense and he spent the first years in the NFL in that type of offense. the WCO actually exposes alot of his faults. He's gotten better at it, but its still not "comfortable" for him. in any case, Campbell has been in enough offenses in his career, i really doubt there's anything that will be "new" to him at this point. (Un?)fortunately, the chances of Campbell being the Redskins QB next year appear slim, so it really doesnt matter.
I guess your right with exposing his weakness's, but don't forget JC played in a WCO in college and actually played well enough to win a bowl. I think Zorn's issue is he didn't like the long windup and slow throw. So he tries to change it. Even Colt Brennan looked horrid trying to utilize the throwing motion Zorn wanted. Why not just let the QB throw the ball how he has been throwing it for his entire life. A throwing motion they have used and have muscle memory as to when to release the ball to get the ball where they want it. Now you change it up and you have QB's trying to think too much in order to get the job done vs. simply backing up and throwing the ball down field.
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I guess your right with exposing his weakness's, but don't forget JC played in a WCO in college and actually played well enough to win a bowl. I think Zorn's issue is he didn't like the long windup and slow throw. So he tries to change it. Even Colt Brennan looked horrid trying to utilize the throwing motion Zorn wanted. Why not just let the QB throw the ball how he has been throwing it for his entire life. A throwing motion they have used and have muscle memory as to when to release the ball to get the ball where they want it. Now you change it up and you have QB's trying to think too much in order to get the job done vs. simply backing up and throwing the ball down field.
I understand your question and have thought the same. However, QB's have not been throwing all their lives against NFL defenses, where defenders are bigger, faster, and smarter, and therein lies the difference.

long windup: not a problem so much in college but NFL defenders will jump the throw
sidearm release (Brennan): not a problem so much in college but a big problem when facing tall, athletic NFL linemen and linebackers
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^ I get that but why Zimmer? The defense in Cinnci has never been all that hot. I honestly feel Ryan is younger and better. It would merge the Walsh/Shanahan offense with the Callihan/Ryan defense. I think that is what the browns are looking to do.
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Shanahan already picking Redskins staff
By Mark J. Miller

Washington Redskins head coach Jim Zorn supposedly added the word "former" to his title this morning and now it's just a matter of time before Mike Shanahan is named as the head coach in D.C.

He may not be in charge just yet, but Shanahan is already putting together his coaching staff, according to the Washington Examiner. Before Shanahan can be named, though, the Redskins have to reportedly interview secondary coach Jerry Gray again for the position, according to the Washington Post. When Gray was interviewed previously, it was before new general manager Bruce Allen had joined the club so he apparently needs to speak with Allen so that the team will comply with the Rooney Rule, which requires teams to interview minority candidates for all top jobs, though in this case that process seems like a farce.

Shanahan will apparently have his son, Kyle Shanahan, leaving his spot as offensive coordinator with the Houston Texans to serve the same role with the Redskins. And Cincinnati Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer is apparently going to be the guy in charge on that side of the ball for D.C. as soon as Shanahan takes over.

Source: Washington Examiner
Man, all of the Cowboys fans have come out to play today!

Thanks for the update, Sandtrap, but most of us (not all) already are familiar with that potential dance card.
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Shanahan already picking Redskins staff
By Mark J. Miller

Washington Redskins head coach Jim Zorn supposedly added the word "former" to his title this morning and now it's just a matter of time before Mike Shanahan is named as the head coach in D.C.

He may not be in charge just yet, but Shanahan is already putting together his coaching staff, according to the Washington Examiner. Before Shanahan can be named, though, the Redskins have to reportedly interview secondary coach Jerry Gray again for the position, according to the Washington Post. When Gray was interviewed previously, it was before new general manager Bruce Allen had joined the club so he apparently needs to speak with Allen so that the team will comply with the Rooney Rule, which requires teams to interview minority candidates for all top jobs, though in this case that process seems like a farce.

Shanahan will apparently have his son, Kyle Shanahan, leaving his spot as offensive coordinator with the Houston Texans to serve the same role with the Redskins. And Cincinnati Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer is apparently going to be the guy in charge on that side of the ball for D.C. as soon as Shanahan takes over.

Source: Washington Examiner
Info we already know. I presume your simply high lighting the specific part as to who will be the Coordinators.

I find it funny a Dallas fan is coming on our site to try and add info about our coaching situation. Shouldn't you guys be more worried about why the Eagles let you win and didn't show anything defensivly or offensively during the meaningless game? Oh I know it was meaningfull for you guys in Dallas so you could say you all took 1st place in the division. But now the Eagles have game film to look at in order to tackle you in the play offs. They gave you nothing to work with.
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Why switch to a 3-4? We dont have enough draft picks as it is to address all our holes. Switching to a 3-4 this offseason would be a terrible idea.
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^ I get that but why Zimmer? The defense in Cinnci has never been all that hot. I honestly feel Ryan is younger and better. It would merge the Walsh/Shanahan offense with the Callihan/Ryan defense. I think that is what the browns are looking to do.
The only thing I can keep thinking is Zimmer's contract is up this year. Ryan is only in his first year of his contract or second. I think it might be a little harder to pick him up. We could call him DC/Asst. HC I guess.
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Why switch to a 3-4? We dont have enough draft picks as it is to address all our holes. Switching to a 3-4 this offseason would be a terrible idea.
Uncapped season. Are there any available in FA. I find it funny how everyone immediatly thinks about draft picks.
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Info we already know. I presume your simply high lighting the specific part as to who will be the Coordinators.

I find it funny a Dallas fan is coming on our site to try and add info about our coaching situation. Shouldn't you guys be more worried about why the Eagles let you win and didn't show anything defensivly or offensively during the meaningless game? Oh I know it was meaningfull for you guys in Dallas so you could say you all took 1st place in the division. But now the Eagles have game film to look at in order to tackle you in the play offs. They gave you nothing to work with.
So if that were true, why risk getting thier players hurt? Why not sit them like the Colts or the Chargers?

So in your opinion, the Eagles surrendered a first round bye and the ability to have a playoff game at home, risked getting their starters hurt, JUST so they would not "show thier hand"?

C'Mon are you SERIOUS? Were you on Zorns staff?

When you make a speculation, at least have the courtesy to have evidence to back it up.
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^ I get that but why Zimmer? The defense in Cinnci has never been all that hot. I honestly feel Ryan is younger and better. It would merge the Walsh/Shanahan offense with the Callihan/Ryan defense. I think that is what the browns are looking to do.
This only Zimmer's first year as the DC in Cincy, so whatever they've been in the past has nothing to do with him

Also, we might be adding Rick Dennison as OL coach, Bobby Turner as RB coach, and Jeff Goodman as Director of Pro Personnel, while Brown gets bumped up to Director of Player Personnel and Scott Campbell is shown the door. All very speculative at this point
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The only thing I can keep thinking is Zimmer's contract is up this year. Ryan is only in his first year of his contract or second. I think it might be a little harder to pick him up. We could call him DC/Asst. HC I guess.
someone asked why switch to a 3-4, it was rumored that Shanahan and his former DC where investigating that type of defense. Although Ryan is in year one of his contract, he may be fired along with mangini by holmgren to bring people that fit his mold
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