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Old 12-18-2009, 08:26 PM   #76
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Here's how you get around the "Rooney Rule" --

Step 1. Call up Tony Dungy.
Step 2. Ask Tony if he wants the job.
Step 3. Wait for Tony to say "No."
Step 4. Hire the coach you wanted all along.

Bingo. Rooney rule followed.
so we hire sherm lewis again?
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Isn't Zorn getting like $5 million a year? You tell me who's getting over like a fat cat.

It's definitely part of the business. These days coaches essentially get 3 years to turn things around. Zorn got two. No biggie. Personally, I'd like to see him stay, but hey.
gibbs was getting 5 mill. zorn is getting around 2 mill.
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gibbs was getting 5 mill. zorn is getting around 2 mill.
tomayto tomato, he isn't gonna go hungry
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Isn't Zorn getting like $5 million a year? You tell me who's getting over like a fat cat.

It's definitely part of the business. These days coaches essentially get 3 years to turn things around. Zorn got two. No biggie. Personally, I'd like to see him stay, but hey.
I don't get why anyone would want Zorn to stay. The team improved when he was stripped of most of his duties. I see no point in bringing Zorn back. I like Zorn too...he would make a great neighbor but I don't want him coaching my football team.
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Chris Mortensen on ESPN Pro Football Blitz Just said that "Bruce Allen was Mike Shanahans guy so Shanahans going to end up being the Redskins Head Coach, you can put that one in the book". He was asked why Gruden would not be the next coach because of his relationship with Allen and Chris answered, "It ant happening, Mike Shanahan is going to be the Redskins head coach".


Sounds pretty official to me.
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:12 PM   #81
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Here's how you get around the "Rooney Rule" --

Step 1. Call up Tony Dungy.
Step 2. Ask Tony if he wants the job.
Step 3. Wait for Tony to say "No."
Step 4. Hire the coach you wanted all along.

Bingo. Rooney rule followed.
Keep in mind the Redskins have a handful of minority coaches, more then most teams in the league. Greg Blache, Jerry Gray, Sherm Lewis, Sherman Smith, Stump Mitchell, Steve Jackson, Bobby Crumpler, and Stan Hixon are all minority coaches. In fact I think the Redskins have been commended in the past for the level of diversity they've had in both the front office and among their coaching staff.

I wonder how people of mixed race would work though when it comes to the Rooney rule. I mean if you interview someone thats half white and half something else, like Herm Edwards, does it qualify as one candidate or half a candidate? What if someone is like 1/5 native american?

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I don't get why anyone would want Zorn to stay. The team improved when he was stripped of most of his duties. I see no point in bringing Zorn back. I like Zorn too...he would make a great neighbor but I don't want him coaching my football team.
The only reason I would want Zorn to stay is to continue to coach QB's. If anything he's done a pretty good job with Jason. However we have a quality offensive mind in Shannahan coming in, and more then likely a budding prodigy in his son Kyle, so that would make keeping Zorn a moot point. Not to mention there's no way in hell he would come back next year.
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I don't get why anyone would want Zorn to stay. The team improved when he was stripped of most of his duties. I see no point in bringing Zorn back. I like Zorn too...he would make a great neighbor but I don't want him coaching my football team.
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I don't get why anyone would want Zorn to stay. The team improved when he was stripped of most of his duties. I see no point in bringing Zorn back. I like Zorn too...he would make a great neighbor but I don't want him coaching my football team.
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:29 PM   #84
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Can we close this thread since Shannahan isn't our coach yet???
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:35 PM   #85
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Good read here Don’t Hire Mike Shanahan (An Open Letter to Clark Hunt)
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Re: Report: Shanahan to DC done deal

I just heard in Korea that Greg Novis is officialy out of the race for head coach, but he will be in charge of yelling at bartenders at the Hardtimes in Springfield every Sunday during Skins games!
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:00 PM   #87
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Adam Schefter said it is not a done deal. Way i see it

Chris Mortenson and NFL VERSUS Adam Schefter.

This is ginna be damn good!
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:05 PM   #88
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It is interesting, but pretty weak arguments when applied to our situation here:

His first argument is fallacious, he builds the evidence of Shanahan being better than Holmgren, very well I might add:
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So letís compare apples to apples. Shanahan lost Elway to retirement at the end of the 1998 season. Mike Holmgren lost Brett Favre when he took over in Seattle at the end of the 1998 season. Each has ten seasons now without their Hall Of Fame, Super Bowl-winning quarterback. In that span Shanahan has 91 regular season wins. Holmgren has 86. Advantage: Shanahan, right?
then tears it down because Holmgrem "changed the culture" Ok, but Shanahan did not have that opportunity so it proves nothing about Shanahans ability. And the fact is, Shanahan did win more games.

2. I will grant Shanahan wasn't outstanding in the playoffs without Elway. time to find another Elway (maybe Campbell, remember Elway wasn't perfect, after all he tried to take a snap from a guard!)

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With Elway, Shanahanís mean average season record was 12-4. Sans Elway itís 9-7. Iíd rather have a coach that charged full steam into the postseason rather than unceremoniously backing into it.
So with a HOF QB, 12-4, w/o 9-7, what have we been?

4. Not sure I care whether or not Shanahan can win at Arrowhead or Mile High. Maybe a stat about losing at Dallas or Philly, otherwise, meh...

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Mike Shanahan canít draft. ... He hasnít shown any great propensity for developing young talent either. He is what he is: a decent manager of veteran players. Weíre not a veteran team.
Well we are a fairly veteran team, and both BA and Shanahan seem to understand good talent. Now the other part is it sounds like we are bringing in one or more top scouts to help keep the talent stocked.

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Capitalism.
Arrowhead used to be famous for its Sea of Red. Lately itís becoming infamous for its Seats of Red. I know the team is $30 million under the cap. Thatís probably a good thing, given how much revenue is lost when those seats go empty more often than not. Consider the general disgust presently pervading the Chiefs fan base. Now consider the current condition of the economy. Now consider how many more seats might go empty if you brought aboard the most hated man in the AFC West. In the Chiefs Nation, Carl Peterson has a higher approval rating than Mike Shanahan. Hell, Scott Peterson has a higher approval rating than Mike Shanahan.
Again, highly pertinent to KC, not so much here. Also Capitalism could be a persuasive argument for him here, he will certainly bring a dynamic offense to Washington, and that WILL fill all those yellow seats at FEDEX.

Well that's my thoughts, but still good article.
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Sounds like I could have written the article, it's true. No Elway, no success. And then there's Jay Cutler with his 22 int's and counting. No thanks!!
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Sounds like I could have written the article, it's true. No Elway, no success. And then there's Jay Cutler with his 22 int's and counting. No thanks!!

He still had an average of 9-7, that seems like success. He had 91 wins in 10 seasons, which is 91 and 69, seems like success.

He went to the playoffs 4 times, seems like more success in 10 years then our last 10 years.

So, maybe he didn't have as much as with Elway, but he did have success.

(maybe Campbell is Elway the 2nd (I love saying that LOL))
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