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Old 12-20-2009, 09:43 PM   #31
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Am I the only one who finds it laughable when people say that Snyder is more meddlesome than Jerry Jones? I mean JJ is the freaking GM of the team...shit, he probably tells Grimace Phillips what plays to call.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:02 PM   #32
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Am I the only one who finds it laughable when people say that Snyder is more meddlesome than Jerry Jones? I mean JJ is the freaking GM of the team...shit, he probably tells Grimace Phillips what plays to call.
Well one argument against Snyder is that at least Jones is up front about being General Manager, instead of hiding. But that's those that believe that Snyder is overly meddlesome, as opposed to just an involved business owner
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Well one argument against Snyder is that at least Jones is up front about being General Manager, instead of hiding. But that's those that believe that Snyder is overly meddlesome, as opposed to just an involved business owner
I hear what you say. However, unless someone in here has intimate knowledge of what happens behind closed doors at Redskins Park, to our knowledge Snyder has had other people involved in the decision-making process like Vinny and Joe Gibbs. Jerry Jones doesn't have a GM, he is the GM, he makes all the decisions. Snyder is a meddlesome owner, more than any owner, except Jerry Jones.
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EDIT: holy cow, I just saw that she died of a heart attack. At 32 years old. Terrible.
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I have wondered for awhile if she did not have an eating disorder, that could lead to cardiac arrest as well.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:16 PM   #35
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I hear what you say. However, unless someone in here has intimate knowledge of what happens behind closed doors at Redskins Park, to our knowledge Snyder has had other people involved in the decision-making process like Vinny and Joe Gibbs. Jerry Jones doesn't have a GM, he is the GM, he makes all the decisions. Snyder is a meddlesome owner, more than any owner, except Jerry Jones.
There are a lot of "meddlesome" owners, but most aren't as public as Snyder. As the years go by it's increasingly difficult for me to have direct sources inside Redskins Park and I'm no longer working down there so I'm not in the locker room or at Redskins Park like I was seven or so years ago. So yeah I don't really know the absolute extent of what is going on now. I know that Scott Campbell is very, very involved in the off-season and Mo Brown during the regular season. I know that Schar and Fred Smith have input as owners (not as much the other owners).

But anyway, yeah I think Jones is more of a "one man band" than Snyder. Won't be popular for me to say, but Jones is a sharp man. Very intelligent. Not sure he should be the GM though
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I hear what you say. However, unless someone in here has intimate knowledge of what happens behind closed doors at Redskins Park, to our knowledge Snyder has had other people involved in the decision-making process like Vinny and Joe Gibbs. Jerry Jones doesn't have a GM, he is the GM, he makes all the decisions. Snyder is a meddlesome owner, more than any owner, except Jerry Jones.
many would think they are both too involved, but atleast jerry jones has some actual football knowledge and background, snyder knows how to run a telecomunications company

jerry jones may be medelsome but he has had enjoyed successes as a medelsome owner, snyder has not
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:22 PM   #37
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many would think they are both too involved, but atleast jerry jones has some actual football knowledge and background, snyder knows how to run a telecomunications company

jerry jones may be medelsome but he has had enjoyed successes as a medelsome owner, snyder has not
I would put Jones first and Snyder second (in regards of being meddlesome). I'm curious to know, was JJ this involved when Jimmy Johnson was the HC? Just curious.
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I would put Jones first and Snyder second (in regards of being meddlesome). I'm curious to know, was JJ this involved when Jimmy Johnson was the HC? Just curious.
I don't think so. I think that was the big thing. Jones wanted more control and thought he didn't need Johnson so they went different ways.

Al Davis, Ralph Wilson, Bud Adams, Mike Brown, Zygi Wilf, all examples of "meddlesome" owners. Though Adams seems to have only become one in recent years perhaps due to his advancing age.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:38 PM   #39
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I don't think so. I think that was the big thing. Jones wanted more control and thought he didn't need Johnson so they went different ways.
Interesting...so I guess the argument someone earlier saying that Jones has been successful as a meddlesome owner is not that strong, huh?

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Al Davis, Ralph Wilson, Bud Adams, Mike Brown, Zygi Wilf, all examples of "meddlesome" owners. Though Adams seems to have only become one in recent years perhaps due to his advancing age.
Oh man, so what will Snyder be like when he's in his 60's??!! LOL.
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I don't think so. I think that was the big thing. Jones wanted more control and thought he didn't need Johnson so they went different ways.

Al Davis, Ralph Wilson, Bud Adams, Mike Brown, Zygi Wilf, all examples of "meddlesome" owners. Though Adams seems to have only become one in recent years perhaps due to his advancing age.
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I would put Jones first and Snyder second (in regards of being meddlesome). I'm curious to know, was JJ this involved when Jimmy Johnson was the HC? Just curious.
Lol, so you would put Al Davis behind both Jones and Snyder?
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Old 12-21-2009, 01:06 AM   #42
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While it's debatable which owner is more meddlesome in terms of personnel, I don't think it's debatable who makes a better owner. Snyder, though seemingly making some better decisions as of late w/ the Vinny for Allen swap, has time and time again shown zero class i.e. total lack of professionalism. His "office" had to crap on Williams before the guy left instead of taking the high road. One way or another Snyder has allowed this shit-show of demeaning Jason, or Zorn, or whomever w/ a million inquiries and quests to land different players or coaches.

For a middle-aged man he seems unbelievably immature in his professional business. I'm not questioning his smarts, obviously he made a fortune in the communications gig and then stepped right into a gold mine w/ devoted fans willing to fork over cash year in year out for a failure. But when it comes to the relationship side of his business I mean...yeah if I was Shanahan I'd prefer Jones and the roster he's assembled over Snyder and the roster he's assembled. Again, how many guys can put down a Snyder gig as a plus on their resume? Does Vinny work for another franchise the rest of his life? Would Williams be closer to an HC position (or already be there) had he spent those 4 years proving his abilities to a different owner?
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I kind of like Snyder, so bring on the hate!
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Danny needs to go in his wallet and buy out the ESPN contract for chucky.
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The obvious answer is anyone who doesn't want to deal with Jerry Jones.

People like to speculate how involved Snyder is, but the fact is in Dallas Jones is very involved.
Very true. We don't really know how involved DS is, but Jones makes it pretty clear; he even tells the media if he thinks a player (e.g. F. Jones) deserves more playing time.
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