Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants)

Chico23231 · 12-22-2009, 06:39 AM

Can anyone think of a more embarrassing lost on MNF ever? I really cant.
But we are what our record states, a f*cking horrible, pathetic team. BUT, we have gotten rid of our biggest issue Vinny so that is a plus. My smack now after being able to sleep on it:

1. Its a broken record: our offensive line is god aweful. Heyer is horrible in pass protection. We honest to god need at least 2 new starters in on the line, Tackle and either RG or the other Tackle position. Rabauch at center is bad, but Ill think we will keep him at this point but bring someone to challenge for the spot, maybe Williams but who knows.
2. Anyone stating Zorn can stay and still head coach is crazy. I just dont get the defending of such a poor coach. People like stats, look at his record, nuff said. The way he didnt get this team ready to play for a national audience last night was IMO enough to get him fired now, and put in Jerry Gray as HC. The man looked pathetic on the sidelines. Blanche probably should go based on his unit's preformance as well. Danny Smith too, yeah he called a couple fakes this year, f8ck him.
3. Free Safety is now officially a need on this team. Move Laron to his natural position of strong safety and lets throw some money at a vet in the offseason. Laron is playing with zero confidence.
4. The other thread of cut 10 starters should be taken into consideration by Bruce Allen. If we are bring in new FO, new HC, then new players should follow. To everybody stating "we are not far off", please....we are at least 2 years, maybe 3 from seriously challenging within our own division. Its going to take patience, lets start by getting some of the Gibbs, Vinny guys off the team...some immediate, some more slowly...immediate: ARE, Portis, Daniels, Rock, Randy Thomas, Wynn, Samuels (retirement due injury), more slowly: Moss, Rabauch, Carlos, Betts, Rocky.
5. JC was bad last night, BUT after seeing other vets who I would consider options for next year (Hasselbeck, Bulger, Penningtion, etc.) he is still our best option at QB by far. Several horrible throws last night, but like we have said, he is average QB and I think we get a couple games like that unfortunately with him back there.

Bruce Allen good luck, I have faith in you, and if any higher power is reading this post and other posts here, please dont let us play like that again for next week game. Amen.

Jesse E. Timmons · 12-22-2009, 07:32 AM

the mnf crew really got on my nerves last night, especially gruden, he was an ass i thought. i turned sonny and sam on the radio.

Mattyk · 12-22-2009, 08:02 AM

F the whole team and staff. They gave up, season over.

At least now Bruce Allen doesn't have to feel bad about cleaning house.

nyredskinsfan · 12-22-2009, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

F the whole team and staff. They gave up, season over.

At least now Bruce Allen doesn't have to feel bad about cleaning house.

you know matty....i was trying to come up with something about this game and you came up with a shortened version. i like yours.

Hog1 · 12-22-2009, 08:11 AM

Maybe the team is MAKING SURE the coaching staff is.........GONE?
............disgrace

Mattyk · 12-22-2009, 08:11 AM

Not much else to say, right?

I turned the game off early in the 3rd quarter. Not sure I've ever done that before.

dmek25 · 12-22-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

All of the above. I don't know what to think about Jason coming back in. On one hand, no one can possibly say he's not a leader now. On the other, he definitely hurt his stock around the league in doing so. Or at least, I think he did.

maybe he will never be the same after the shellacking he has been taking this season. kind of like a Pat Ramsey syndrome. and whats up with people bitching about the refs? sure, they missed one on Jacobs, but during that scuffle Haynesworth threw a punch as well

bigmarley4 · 12-22-2009, 08:29 AM

We lost to GB on MNF in 2001-2002 maybe? That was pretty awful.

Can we please never ever wear burgundy on burgundy again. They don't even look good.

mike340 · 12-22-2009, 08:44 AM

Did it start with Hall being dragged around by the facemask, or did I mis-see it?

Defense, for the first time all year, never showed up to play. Strangely, I felt we were completely out of it starting during the third Giants drive, and not because of the offense (only 2 series so far for them), but because our defense simply couldn't stop them.

Our offensive playmakers outplayed our defensive playmakers.

JC was under ridiculous pressure during the first half, recovered starting the second half, and then went downhill due to earlier pressure from the Giants and game pressure. Collins came in, however, and immediately delivered the goods. Hmmm...

The offensive line was truly offensive, earning it my Golden Goat award. The other goes to the defense.

Mattyk · 12-22-2009, 08:45 AM

Can't say I'm really surprised that the team folded last night. Did I see it coming? No. But in hindsight I think the signs were there for a potential collapse.

Vinny stepping down, Allen coming in, Shanahan in the rearview, rumblings of coaches on the staff interviewing for the HC job and the resulting dissention amongst the ranks of the staff, it's not a surprise we got smoked.

Finally, let's tip our hats to the Giants who came in and played like a team with a purpose. We were overmatched in every phase of the game.

Southpaw · 12-22-2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Jason Campbell I know the protection was pretty putrid today. But the numbers don't lie...he threw two horrible interceptions that were his fault. Plus, how is it that Collins comes in and fires off two deep passes? I'll tell you why, because he wasn't afraid to take on 3rd string DBs, even in tight coverage. I think JC will and should be re-signed but quit playing scared. Make some throws.

Yeah, he looked scared tonight, but he actually hasn't played that way in the last several weeks. I don't know if it was the Giants, or primetime, or the fact that the rest of the team mailed it in, but he definitely didn't have it last night... And because of that, gave all the haters an excuse to come out of the woodwork.

Mattyk · 12-22-2009, 08:54 AM

With a complete lack of protection I really can't blame JC for being off. Dude was getting killed and kept coming back for more.

davy · 12-22-2009, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Not much else to say, right?

I turned the game off early in the 3rd quarter. Not sure I've ever done that before.

Quitter!

Mattyk · 12-22-2009, 09:04 AM

I was just following the example set by the team.

calia · 12-22-2009, 09:30 AM

I actually hung in and saw the whole game as I couldn't believe that there wouldn't be at least a drive in which we showed a little fight. I give credit to Fred Davis who really hustled for extra yards (and got 1st downs -- most of the few we made -- and a TD as a result), to Haynesworth for trying to protect a teammate, and to Fletcherfor constant hustle. No one really came to play, and it was really disheartening. Zorn looked completely lost and befuddled. JC looked like he'd just survived Bastogne (did you see how glassy-eyed he was at the end of the game?. Our O-line functioned like matadors last night, and it was painful to watch.

This may be the worst overall effort I have seen by our team since I became a fan in 1973.

12-22-2009, 06:39 AM	#31
Chico23231 Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 36 Posts: 7,799	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants) Can anyone think of a more embarrassing lost on MNF ever? I really cant. But we are what our record states, a f*cking horrible, pathetic team. BUT, we have gotten rid of our biggest issue Vinny so that is a plus. My smack now after being able to sleep on it: 1. Its a broken record: our offensive line is god aweful. Heyer is horrible in pass protection. We honest to god need at least 2 new starters in on the line, Tackle and either RG or the other Tackle position. Rabauch at center is bad, but Ill think we will keep him at this point but bring someone to challenge for the spot, maybe Williams but who knows. 2. Anyone stating Zorn can stay and still head coach is crazy. I just dont get the defending of such a poor coach. People like stats, look at his record, nuff said. The way he didnt get this team ready to play for a national audience last night was IMO enough to get him fired now, and put in Jerry Gray as HC. The man looked pathetic on the sidelines. Blanche probably should go based on his unit's preformance as well. Danny Smith too, yeah he called a couple fakes this year, f8ck him. 3. Free Safety is now officially a need on this team. Move Laron to his natural position of strong safety and lets throw some money at a vet in the offseason. Laron is playing with zero confidence. 4. The other thread of cut 10 starters should be taken into consideration by Bruce Allen. If we are bring in new FO, new HC, then new players should follow. To everybody stating "we are not far off", please....we are at least 2 years, maybe 3 from seriously challenging within our own division. Its going to take patience, lets start by getting some of the Gibbs, Vinny guys off the team...some immediate, some more slowly...immediate: ARE, Portis, Daniels, Rock, Randy Thomas, Wynn, Samuels (retirement due injury), more slowly: Moss, Rabauch, Carlos, Betts, Rocky. 5. JC was bad last night, BUT after seeing other vets who I would consider options for next year (Hasselbeck, Bulger, Penningtion, etc.) he is still our best option at QB by far. Several horrible throws last night, but like we have said, he is average QB and I think we get a couple games like that unfortunately with him back there. Bruce Allen good luck, I have faith in you, and if any higher power is reading this post and other posts here, please dont let us play like that again for next week game. Amen. __________________ Ready for the Draft.

12-22-2009, 07:32 AM	#32
Jesse E. Timmons Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 47	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants) the mnf crew really got on my nerves last night, especially gruden, he was an ass i thought. i turned sonny and sam on the radio. __________________ not an expert, just a fan.

12-22-2009, 08:02 AM	#33
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,739	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants) F the whole team and staff. They gave up, season over. At least now Bruce Allen doesn't have to feel bad about cleaning house. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-22-2009, 08:11 AM	#35
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,377	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants) Maybe the team is MAKING SURE the coaching staff is.........GONE? ............disgrace __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

12-22-2009, 08:11 AM	#36
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,739	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants) Not much else to say, right? I turned the game off early in the 3rd quarter. Not sure I've ever done that before. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-22-2009, 08:29 AM	#38
bigmarley4 Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 215	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants) We lost to GB on MNF in 2001-2002 maybe? That was pretty awful. Can we please never ever wear burgundy on burgundy again. They don't even look good.

12-22-2009, 08:44 AM	#39
mike340 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 56 Posts: 267	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants) Did it start with Hall being dragged around by the facemask, or did I mis-see it? Defense, for the first time all year, never showed up to play. Strangely, I felt we were completely out of it starting during the third Giants drive, and not because of the offense (only 2 series so far for them), but because our defense simply couldn't stop them. Our offensive playmakers outplayed our defensive playmakers. JC was under ridiculous pressure during the first half, recovered starting the second half, and then went downhill due to earlier pressure from the Giants and game pressure. Collins came in, however, and immediately delivered the goods. Hmmm... The offensive line was truly offensive, earning it my Golden Goat award. The other goes to the defense.

12-22-2009, 08:45 AM	#40
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,739	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants) Can't say I'm really surprised that the team folded last night. Did I see it coming? No. But in hindsight I think the signs were there for a potential collapse. Vinny stepping down, Allen coming in, Shanahan in the rearview, rumblings of coaches on the staff interviewing for the HC job and the resulting dissention amongst the ranks of the staff, it's not a surprise we got smoked. Finally, let's tip our hats to the Giants who came in and played like a team with a purpose. We were overmatched in every phase of the game. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-22-2009, 08:54 AM	#42
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,739	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants) With a complete lack of protection I really can't blame JC for being off. Dude was getting killed and kept coming back for more. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-22-2009, 09:04 AM	#44
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,739	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants) I was just following the example set by the team. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-22-2009, 09:30 AM	#45
calia Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 44 Posts: 391	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants) I actually hung in and saw the whole game as I couldn't believe that there wouldn't be at least a drive in which we showed a little fight. I give credit to Fred Davis who really hustled for extra yards (and got 1st downs -- most of the few we made -- and a TD as a result), to Haynesworth for trying to protect a teammate, and to Fletcherfor constant hustle. No one really came to play, and it was really disheartening. Zorn looked completely lost and befuddled. JC looked like he'd just survived Bastogne (did you see how glassy-eyed he was at the end of the game?. Our O-line functioned like matadors last night, and it was painful to watch. This may be the worst overall effort I have seen by our team since I became a fan in 1973.

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