Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants)

GMScud · 12-22-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Can't say I'm really surprised that the team folded last night. Did I see it coming? No. But in hindsight I think the signs were there for a potential collapse.

Vinny stepping down, Allen coming in, Shanahan in the rearview, rumblings of coaches on the staff interviewing for the HC job and the resulting dissention amongst the ranks of the staff, it's not a surprise we got smoked.

Finally, let's tip our hats to the Giants who came in and played like a team with a purpose. We were overmatched in every phase of the game.

Took the "72" out of your username? Feeling your years a little?

I agree that the signs were there. I heard on the radio today that Kelly Johnson of Comcast reported that throughout the week of practice last week several players asked her off camera about Mike Shanahan. So there were definitely big distractions.

mredskins · 12-22-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

That's quite the analogy. LOL!

Thanks, we are potty training my two year old right now. So it is foremost in my mind.

Espically so when say you are in Target at 7:30 on a Monday Night and you want to get home to see the Redskins play and your son decides it is a good time just to piss himself, grrrrrr...parenting got love it. =)

warpaint · 12-22-2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Although it got ruined by the timeout, I actually thought that the fake field goal was a decent design. Yoder, not Albright, was the long snapper, and because of the formation he was an eligible receiver. I think the idea was to confuse the G-men with massive movement on the left of the formation and then throw the ball to Yoder out on the right. It could have worked - but not once the Giants call a timeout and prepare for it. The element of surprise was lost. When the Giants called timeout we should have called off the fake.

Well the second attempt sums the Redskins motto for the year. Our oline is not performing so will just put them far left and maybe the defense will be so from the passer maybe he will have enough time to pass with them over there.

warriorzpath · 12-22-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

The Giants did play with a sense of purpose while we managed to turn in our worst effort this season.

Whoever the new coach coupled with Bruce Allen, have a tremendous job on their hands to get this team back to respectability.

I think in the last few weeks minus last night's game, the redskins have showed that they can be more than respectable. But they just need to come prepared, focused, and play with effort. Funny how that makes all the difference in the world.

davy · 12-22-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Zorn says in his press conference that after seeing the video, in retrospect he would have gone for the field goal. But he also said and I'm kinda paraphrasing (but not entirely)-the call was so clever it forced the Giants to take a time-out.

Yeah, that really hurt them with only 2 seconds left in the half.

mlmdub130 · 12-22-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Zorn says in his press conference that after seeing the video, in retrospect he would have gone for the field goal. But he also said and I'm kinda paraphrasing (but not entirely)-the call was so clever it forced the Giants to take a time-out.

the thing that gets lost on that play is how close the giants were to scring a td on that return if he would have cut back into the middle there was a damn good chance that could have been a pick 6

tryfuhl · 12-22-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm not sure what YOU'RE watching.

I'm seeing Haynesworth making Carter look relevant again and making Orakpo look like the D-ROY. Also seeing that in the games that've been analyzed by others Haynesworth is taking 75-80 percent of the snaps in a line that's rotated heavily anyways.

tryfuhl · 12-22-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

ok, I didn't expect us to beat the giants, but I also didn't expect us to lose this badly either. Jason Campbell played like how I've always know him to play, scarred and conservative. I LOVE and completely agree with Smootsmacks statement about how Todd Collins went in the game and just slung it down field, where as jason is the screen dump off short passes type.

It did seem that if JC got the ball out as quickly as TC he definitely wouldn't have endured as many hits.

CultBrennan59 · 12-22-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It's called game planning. They had one, we didn't.

And when teams game plan against these guys that shows us that we have a lot of weaknesses on our defense.

Mattyk · 12-22-2009, 02:04 PM

Not sure what game some of you were watching, but I saw JC getting hit before he could even plant his foot on his third step sometimes. Not sure how much quicker you want him to get it out.

Yeah one of the knocks on him is a tendency to hold the ball, but last night was just a total breakdown in protection much more so than him not getting the ball out quick enough.

tryfuhl · 12-22-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Not sure what game some of you were watching, but I saw JC getting hit before he could even plant his foot on his third step sometimes. Not sure how much quicker you want him to get it out.

Yeah one of the knocks on him is a tendency to hold the ball, but last night was just a total breakdown in protection much more so than him not getting the ball out quick enough.

He definitely got hit way earlier than we should've let guys get through at times, but he also got hit a few times he should've found an option. I'd really have to go back and watch to see what type of ratio it was though. We would've had 3-5 late hit calls if it was Brady back there.

Longtimefan · 12-22-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I think in the last few weeks minus last night's game, the redskins have showed that they can be more than respectable. But they just need to come prepared, focused, and play with effort. Funny how that makes all the difference in the world.

I agree....And I'm speaking not only about the play on the field but the lack of discipline and professionalism as well. The effort and intensity must not last for just a few games, it has to become a constant for the entire season. The pressure will be on Bruce Allen to produce early, and believing he shares a little of his father's wisdom "The Future Is Now."

skinsfan69 · 12-22-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I agree....And I'm speaking not only about the play on the field but the lack of discipline and professionalism as well. The effort and intensity must not last for just a few games, it has to become a constant for the entire season. The pressure will be on Bruce Allen to produce early, and believing he shares a little of his father's wisdom "The Future Is Now."

It's going to take time. We've got to get a whole new o line and you can't rebuild a line in one year. I just hope he brings in some professionals and some leaders. We need more guys like London Fletcher.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 12-22-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tryfuhl

It did seem that if JC got the ball out as quickly as TC he definitely wouldn't have endured as many hits.

TC got hit every time he dropped back, even when he completed the pass to Moss.

WaldSkins · 12-22-2009, 05:21 PM

Id like to see our current RB's and Wr's play behind a revamped line before cleaning house at those positions. I still think Portis and Moss have value on this team.

12-22-2009, 02:04 PM	#115
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,652	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants) Not sure what game some of you were watching, but I saw JC getting hit before he could even plant his foot on his third step sometimes. Not sure how much quicker you want him to get it out. Yeah one of the knocks on him is a tendency to hold the ball, but last night was just a total breakdown in protection much more so than him not getting the ball out quick enough. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-22-2009, 05:21 PM	#120
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 29 Posts: 2,714	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Giants) Id like to see our current RB's and Wr's play behind a revamped line before cleaning house at those positions. I still think Portis and Moss have value on this team. __________________ "I would change that around, Jesus isn't Cutler. I guarantee you Jesus couldnt thread the ball like Jay does."-Monksdown

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