10 Cuts-Your Call

Pocket$ $traight · 12-22-2009, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Draft Taylor Mays and move Landry to Strong Safety.

He isn't falling to our second and if we draft another safety with a top 8 pick I am going to put my head through my drywall.

44Deezel · 12-22-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

He isn't falling to our second and if we draft another safety with a top 8 pick I am going to put my head through my drywall.

Trade down then.

SBXVII · 12-23-2009, 12:22 AM

Ya know whats funny I was thinking something like this the other day. I wondered how many O-lineman we had when someone said cut them all....I figured 4 starters across the board, 4 backups, plus 2. for a total of 10.

But I like Heyer as a Guard. Dockery is not bad.

Samuels
R.Thomas
Portis
Betts
Cartwright
Rabach
Williams
Daniels
Wynn
Griffin

Can I go to 15? I don't know why it's so hard for others....

ARE
Moss
Smoot
Tryon
R.Johnson (?)(the O-lineman that Buges commented on at begining of season)

Honestly I'd get rid of the whole O-line and start over if I could. I'd get younger at the RB spot. Keep JC one more year. Have a qualified WR coach actually work with the young guys Thomas, Kelly, and Mitchell to get them ready for next year (something tells me everyone will be pleasantly supprised when we get someone to actually develope them). I'll speak blasphemy....trade Cooley ( I have been against this but we might get an extra pick out of the draft). Pick up an actual blocking TE to compliment Davis. I'm still not giving up on our CB's just yet....maybe change the scheme....Rob Ryan anyone? (I guess he won't be available). Who's a great DC? Oh wait you guys want Gray...right. I'd get rid of Smoot and Rogers if we can find a decent CB or shut down corner. The Giants have shown you don't need a great back field if you have a great DL. Either beef up the DL (Suh anyone) or beef up the back field. Get a true FS.

BigHairedAristocrat · 12-23-2009, 03:40 PM

According to Jason Campbell's interview with Kelli Johnson, a number players on this team have "given up." I wonder who they are...

jrsz24 · 12-23-2009, 04:31 PM

ARE
Smoot
Rabach
Williams
Heyer
Cartwright
Betts
Daniels
Collins
Brennen

I could probably go further.

Sellers
Portis

dmek25 · 12-23-2009, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

According to Jason Campbell's interview with Kelli Johnson, a number players on this team have "given up." I wonder who they are...

i wonder if Mr. Allen is going to have a talk with Mr. Campbell to find out who they are?

tryfuhl · 12-23-2009, 11:15 PM

Rabach
Heyer
ARE
Betts
Jones
Wynn
Smoot
Daniels
Collins
Sellers

DynamiteRave · 12-24-2009, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

According to Jason Campbell's interview with Kelli Johnson, a number players on this team have "given up." I wonder who they are...

Lets take a few guesses shall we?

Moss
Rogers
The offensive line
The secondary

I think the better question is who on the team hasn't given up yet?

DynamiteRave · 12-24-2009, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Rabach
Heyer
ARE
Betts
Jones
Wynn
Smoot
Daniels
Collins
Sellers

Kinda hoping Collins hangs it up. Either way, it's probably smart to get rid of him and bring in a young guy for 2nd string.

Drift Reality · 12-27-2009, 06:44 PM

There are probably 2 or 3 players at most who would be sensible decisions to remove. Portis is one that would clearly make sense based on his salary, performance, and general conduct. After that it all becomes a question of depth at position. The Redskins aren't exactly a deep team at any position so coming up with a long list of cuts simply doesn't make sense.

doughtydoubter · 12-27-2009, 06:50 PM

Portis
ARE
Rabach
wynn
randy thomas
c griff
betts
collins
blache
trade cooley and
trade campbell to the texans for matt schaub

Mattyk · 12-28-2009, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

Portis
ARE
Rabach
wynn
randy thomas
c griff
betts
collins
blache
trade cooley and
trade campbell to the texans for matt schaub

Where's your boy Doughty?

dmek25 · 12-28-2009, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Ya know whats funny I was thinking something like this the other day. I wondered how many O-lineman we had when someone said cut them all....I figured 4 starters across the board, 4 backups, plus 2. for a total of 10.

But I like Heyer as a Guard. Dockery is not bad.
.

are you watching the same thing as me? neither of these guys are NFL quality starters

perez24 · 12-28-2009, 12:26 PM

ARE
Landry. I know he's "out of position" and all that junk but he seems to get burned regardless of the position
Sellers (don't know the cap hit)
Heyer
Collins
Wynn
Betts
Cartwright
I'm sure there are more.

drew54 · 12-28-2009, 04:50 PM

QB - Vet min offer for Campbell, if someone signs him for more, hooray draft pick.(Free Agent/Draft future starter.)
RB - Cut Portis, Cartwright(plays hard, but is not a viable back up RB) (Free Agent/Draft future starter.)
FB - Sellers is a tough guy, but part of the problem I fear. - YODER to start at Fullback next year.
WR - Moss, ARE, Time for the youth to step up.
LT - Samuels, time to retire.
RG - Thomas, time to retire.
C - Rabach is kept as depth only but should hopefully not be the starter thanks to a rookie or FA.
OL - All others are kept to compete for their jobs. Hopefully there are two rookie tackles that can come in and start. These should be taken with our first two draft picks.
---
Defense has me worried. Can it improve in a different 4-3 scheme, or could it be morphed to 3-4?

It seems that most of the pieces to the puzzle are there except at CB/S. On our DL, depending on if Orakpo or Jarmon become a full time DE, then our DTs seem set with Big Al, and Golston/Montgomery/Griffin(When healthy).

Linebacker seems set with maybe an upgrade to replace Rocky(Wilson?)

CB/S is where the most turnover should occur. Rogers should be tendered the vet min offer, and if he is signed else where, again hooray draft pick. Smoot is always trying to make a big play and allowing the 7 yard pass. Our youngsters Westbrook/Tryon/Barnes are left to compete for their job with any new comers we can draft or sign in free agency.
Landry cannot and should not have to cover ever again. Doughty/Horton/Moore kept to battle out the depth spots, and a true Free Saftey drafted/signed.

K/P I think we should be fine. Maybe bring in a competitor for both to keep them sharp.

12-23-2009, 12:22 AM	#108
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call Ya know whats funny I was thinking something like this the other day. I wondered how many O-lineman we had when someone said cut them all....I figured 4 starters across the board, 4 backups, plus 2. for a total of 10. But I like Heyer as a Guard. Dockery is not bad. Samuels R.Thomas Portis Betts Cartwright Rabach Williams Daniels Wynn Griffin Can I go to 15? I don't know why it's so hard for others.... ARE Moss Smoot Tryon R.Johnson (?)(the O-lineman that Buges commented on at begining of season) Honestly I'd get rid of the whole O-line and start over if I could. I'd get younger at the RB spot. Keep JC one more year. Have a qualified WR coach actually work with the young guys Thomas, Kelly, and Mitchell to get them ready for next year (something tells me everyone will be pleasantly supprised when we get someone to actually develope them). I'll speak blasphemy....trade Cooley ( I have been against this but we might get an extra pick out of the draft). Pick up an actual blocking TE to compliment Davis. I'm still not giving up on our CB's just yet....maybe change the scheme....Rob Ryan anyone? (I guess he won't be available). Who's a great DC? Oh wait you guys want Gray...right. I'd get rid of Smoot and Rogers if we can find a decent CB or shut down corner. The Giants have shown you don't need a great back field if you have a great DL. Either beef up the DL (Suh anyone) or beef up the back field. Get a true FS.

12-23-2009, 03:40 PM	#109
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,812	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call According to Jason Campbell's interview with Kelli Johnson, a number players on this team have "given up." I wonder who they are... __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

12-23-2009, 04:31 PM	#110
jrsz24 Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 45	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call ARE Smoot Rabach Williams Heyer Cartwright Betts Daniels Collins Brennen I could probably go further. Sellers Portis

12-23-2009, 11:15 PM	#112
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 29 Posts: 12,512	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call Rabach Heyer ARE Betts Jones Wynn Smoot Daniels Collins Sellers

12-27-2009, 06:44 PM	#115
Drift Reality Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 505	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call There are probably 2 or 3 players at most who would be sensible decisions to remove. Portis is one that would clearly make sense based on his salary, performance, and general conduct. After that it all becomes a question of depth at position. The Redskins aren't exactly a deep team at any position so coming up with a long list of cuts simply doesn't make sense. __________________ Drift Reality DC City Blog New Influencer

12-27-2009, 06:50 PM	#116
doughtydoubter Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: the glorious city of DC Posts: 696	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call Portis ARE Rabach wynn randy thomas c griff betts collins blache trade cooley and trade campbell to the texans for matt schaub

12-28-2009, 12:26 PM	#119
perez24 Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Frederick Posts: 29	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call ARE Landry. I know he's "out of position" and all that junk but he seems to get burned regardless of the position Sellers (don't know the cap hit) Heyer Collins Wynn Betts Cartwright I'm sure there are more.

12-28-2009, 04:50 PM	#120
drew54 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IOWA Age: 30 Posts: 1,282	Re: 10 Cuts-Your Call QB - Vet min offer for Campbell, if someone signs him for more, hooray draft pick.(Free Agent/Draft future starter.) RB - Cut Portis, Cartwright(plays hard, but is not a viable back up RB) (Free Agent/Draft future starter.) FB - Sellers is a tough guy, but part of the problem I fear. - YODER to start at Fullback next year. WR - Moss, ARE, Time for the youth to step up. LT - Samuels, time to retire. RG - Thomas, time to retire. C - Rabach is kept as depth only but should hopefully not be the starter thanks to a rookie or FA. OL - All others are kept to compete for their jobs. Hopefully there are two rookie tackles that can come in and start. These should be taken with our first two draft picks. --- Defense has me worried. Can it improve in a different 4-3 scheme, or could it be morphed to 3-4? It seems that most of the pieces to the puzzle are there except at CB/S. On our DL, depending on if Orakpo or Jarmon become a full time DE, then our DTs seem set with Big Al, and Golston/Montgomery/Griffin(When healthy). Linebacker seems set with maybe an upgrade to replace Rocky(Wilson?) CB/S is where the most turnover should occur. Rogers should be tendered the vet min offer, and if he is signed else where, again hooray draft pick. Smoot is always trying to make a big play and allowing the 7 yard pass. Our youngsters Westbrook/Tryon/Barnes are left to compete for their job with any new comers we can draft or sign in free agency. Landry cannot and should not have to cover ever again. Doughty/Horton/Moore kept to battle out the depth spots, and a true Free Saftey drafted/signed. K/P I think we should be fine. Maybe bring in a competitor for both to keep them sharp. __________________ No pressure, no diamonds.

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