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Old 12-27-2009, 07:01 PM   #1
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Franchise Quarterbacks

Going into the Cowboys game I figured I'd offer a little food for thought on how so-called "franchise" quarterbacks are acquired.

Here is a list of the top-10 NFL quarterbacks by rating currently:

Drew Brees - Round 2 (32)
Philip Rivers - Round 1 (4)
Brett Favre - Round 2 (33)
Aaron Rodgers - Round 1 (24)
Peyton Manning - Round 1 (1)
Ben Roethlisberger - Round 1 (11)
Matt Schaub - Round 3 (90)
Tony Romo - Undrafted
Eli Manning - Round 1 (1)
Tom Brady - Round 6 (199)

The consistency is that each quarterback on this list was either A) drafted by a franchise who had a strong track record of team building and B) was in most cases given time to learn the trade before playing.

My point here is that franchise quarterbacks aren't drafted; they are cultivated. To get from point-A to point-B, a team needs to bring a talented quarterback into a situation where they are given the opportunity to learn a system and surrounded with blue chip talent. Under these conditions, talented quarterbacks can become "franchise quarterbacks."

It is a myth to believe that a team that doesn't have a solid foundation of talent will be able to draft a talented quarterback and expect them to succeed.

In other words, bringing in a Sam Bradford without giving him time to develop and surrounding him with talent would simply be a waste of a draft pick.

There is really no reason why Campbell shouldn't be brought back for the next two years. Other than Campbell there is not one scenario I can imagine where the Redskins are going to have success at the position.
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Old 12-27-2009, 07:05 PM   #2
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trade him and cooley for schaub....
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Old 12-27-2009, 07:11 PM   #3
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are you related DD? i see you had brought up his name in a different thread
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Old 12-27-2009, 08:10 PM   #4
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are you related DD? i see you had brought up his name in a different thread
No, thats FredDavisBro (aka our very own Tanner Cooley).
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Old 12-27-2009, 08:17 PM   #5
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trade him and cooley for schaub....
You have to have a willing partner to make a trade. Besides the Texans have Owens Daniels who many believe is a top 5 TE.
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Old 12-27-2009, 08:34 PM   #6
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......My point here is that franchise quarterbacks aren't drafted; they are cultivated. To get from point-A to point-B, a team needs to bring a talented quarterback into a situation where they are given the opportunity to learn a system and surrounded with blue chip talent. Under these conditions, talented quarterbacks can become "franchise quarterbacks."

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Yes that is true. But just as important as "a team needs to bring a talented quarterback into a situation where they are given the opportunity to learn a system and surrounded with blue chip talent." Just a important or more so, is having a strong coaching staff and a system that works well with the type of talent your QB and the rest of your roster has.
For example when Joe Gibbs was hired in 1982 he came from the Air Coryell system where throwing the ball was done a lot. Well after going 0-5 and they soon discovered what they had was a very good Running OL and back, so they changed their game plan to suit their talent. Not the other way around.
Something Blache needs to learn.
Coaches have to learn to swallow their egos sometimes.
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Old 12-27-2009, 09:27 PM   #7
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Considering 4 of those are top 11 picks.. 5 are first round.. and a couple of others are BARELY into the 2nd round, I'm not sure you can't say a franchise QB can't be drafted
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Old 12-27-2009, 10:03 PM   #8
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I like Bradford...that's my profound contribution for this thread
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Old 12-27-2009, 10:07 PM   #9
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Yes, you need patience when developing a Qb and yes, you need talent around them. It's hard to turn down a qb though when you need one. The question is, are the qb's that are available worth it? I have no idea.
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Old 12-27-2009, 11:25 PM   #10
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We traded up two slots short in 2005. If we had moved one spot ahead of GB and taken Aaron Rodgers we would be set. Dude is a franchise QB no question.

Oh wait he might be dead right now behind the "Vinny Special" oline in DC.

JC is a tough SOB I will give him that.
Rodgers has taken double digit more sacks this year.
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Old 12-27-2009, 11:53 PM   #11
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I forgot. GB's line is terrible. They do have great wr weapons?
Driver and Jones have a good chance of both being 1000 yard receivers this year. Finley is over 500yds, Jones over 400. They've got a pretty solid WR corps.
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Old 12-28-2009, 01:32 AM   #12
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Going into the Cowboys game I figured I'd offer a little food for thought on how so-called "franchise" quarterbacks are acquired.

Here is a list of the top-10 NFL quarterbacks by rating currently:

Drew Brees - Round 2 (32)
Philip Rivers - Round 1 (4)
Brett Favre - Round 2 (33)
Aaron Rodgers - Round 1 (24)
Peyton Manning - Round 1 (1)
Ben Roethlisberger - Round 1 (11)
Matt Schaub - Round 3 (90)
Tony Romo - Undrafted
Eli Manning - Round 1 (1)
Tom Brady - Round 6 (199)

The consistency is that each quarterback on this list was either A) drafted by a franchise who had a strong track record of team building and B) was in most cases given time to learn the trade before playing.

My point here is that franchise quarterbacks aren't drafted; they are cultivated. To get from point-A to point-B, a team needs to bring a talented quarterback into a situation where they are given the opportunity to learn a system and surrounded with blue chip talent. Under these conditions, talented quarterbacks can become "franchise quarterbacks."

It is a myth to believe that a team that doesn't have a solid foundation of talent will be able to draft a talented quarterback and expect them to succeed.

In other words, bringing in a Sam Bradford without giving him time to develop and surrounding him with talent would simply be a waste of a draft pick.

There is really no reason why Campbell shouldn't be brought back for the next two years. Other than Campbell there is not one scenario I can imagine where the Redskins are going to have success at the position.
well he is on the list sorry, the benedryl im taking...... Big Ben, but I must say JC should be brought back
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Old 12-28-2009, 06:45 AM   #13
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after last night you must be crazy. if i was running the show, over half of this team wouldn't be here next year
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Old 12-28-2009, 06:53 AM   #14
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I've said it before...I see hardly a player on this team who could really be considered a "Franchise" Player. We have some good solid players, but it's obvious that we have dire need at O-Line, Quarterback, and Runningback. I think Quinton is the man here, but he is gonna need help.

Blache needs to go as D-Coach. I can't stand that he doesn't like blitzing and feels that sacks are "overrated". What an idiot. He needs out of here..
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Old 12-28-2009, 07:02 AM   #15
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I've said it before...I see hardly a player on this team who could really be considered a "Franchise" Player. We have some good solid players, but it's obvious that we have dire need at O-Line, Quarterback, and Runningback. I think Quinton is the man here, but he is gonna need help.

Blache needs to go as D-Coach. I can't stand that he doesn't like blitzing and feels that sacks are "overrated". What an idiot. He needs out of here..
Other than Orakpo, this team has no "must keep" players. You wont need to worry about Blache, he's going out with the rest of the coaching staff.
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