The Redskins Training staff Should be Fired?

diehardskin2982 · 12-28-2009, 01:06 PM

Do we need to bring in a new training staff? This year has been one of the worst in terms of injuries. I was listening to BMitch on 106.7 the fan today and he brought up this subject up. He felt that the training staff did not properly do their jobs to keep the player in shape and prepared for the season. That is why we lost so many players to injury. I tend to agree with him because look at the guy's like Orakpo, he was known as a workout warrior at Texas and he was in great shape for the season. He hasn't gone down do to injury. Portis on the other hand is notoriously lazy= Always hurt...
What are you guy's thoughts?

Chico23231 · 12-28-2009, 01:09 PM

I would agree with BMitch 100%. Flush out everybody

SolidSnake84 · 12-28-2009, 01:10 PM

I agree full heartedly. Guys show up waaay out of shape like Portis and they are hurt all year. This isn't the first time somebody has brought that up. The training staff evidently isn't doing much of anything..

SmootSmack · 12-28-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I agree full heartedly. Guys show up waaay out of shape like Portis and they are hurt all year. This isn't the first time somebody has brought that up. The training staff evidently isn't doing much of anything..

Going on for a couple of years now it seems

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...nsibility.html (Should John Hastings shoulder some responsibility?)

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tioning-2.html (Strength & Conditioning)

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...-be-fired.html (John Hastings must be fired)

I don't think the problem is so much the lack of proper conditioning, but moreso the culture that has allowed for the lack of conditioning.

diehardskin2982 · 12-28-2009, 01:39 PM

The culture is set by the coach and GM, correct?

rbanerjee23 · 12-28-2009, 01:45 PM

You spelled 'should' wrong...and yes, the training staff needs an upgrade

Dirtbag59 · 12-28-2009, 01:48 PM

It's probably witchcraft. Wouldn't be the first time it has been used in sports.

Ronaldo Cursed By Witch Doctor

SmootSmack · 12-28-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

You spelled 'should' wrong...and yes, the training staff needs an upgrade

Corrected

Lotus · 12-28-2009, 01:53 PM

Why is it that over the last few years the Cowboys have remained healthy for the most part, while we are beset by injuries again and again?

Dirtbag59 · 12-28-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

You spelled 'should' wrong...and yes, the training staff needs an upgrade

Unpossible!

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Why is it that over the last few years the Cowboys have remained healthy for the most part, while we are beset by injuries again and again?

Like I said before Witchcraft. Actually it's probably the gift that keeps givng, Vinny.

Chris Samuals - Spinal condition that was getting worse
Randy Thomas - Expecting anything less then injury was optimistic to say the least
Chris Cooley - Freak accident
Clinton Portis - We've seen this coming for a while now.
Jeremy Jarmon - Witchcraft
Ladell Betts - Witchcraft
Albert Haynesworth - We knew he was going to miss a few games before the season started.

sportscurmudgeon · 12-28-2009, 02:08 PM

Whenever the next coach of the Redskins shows up at the podium for his introductory news conference and whoever that new coach may be, there should be no one from this coaching staff who is retained.

That includes the training staff. That includes the offensive, defensive, special teams and quality control folks. There needs to be a 100% turnover in the staff to try to implement a new outlook for team preparation and team performance.

Next, that totally new staff needs to get rid of 50% of the players currently on the roster. Some of that 50% are overpaid divas who stand in the way of creating a "team"; others are simply not good enough. And the new coaching staff needs to make it clear to all of the players that conditioning and working out is not optional - - if the players harbor any hope of seeing the field on Sunday.

Dirtbag59 · 12-28-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Next, that totally new staff needs to get rid of 50% of the players currently on the roster. Some of that 50% are overpaid divas who stand in the way of creating a "team"; others are simply not good enough. And the new coaching staff needs to make it clear to all of the players that conditioning and working out is not optional - - if the players harbor any hope of seeing the field on Sunday.

Players Union might have something to say about that but I see your point.

Lotus · 12-28-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

It's probably witchcraft. Wouldn't be the first time it has been used in sports.

Ronaldo Cursed By Witch Doctor

We should give that witch doctor a $100 mil. contract.

rbanerjee23 · 12-28-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Unpossible!

Haha sorry dude, couldn't resist

sportscurmudgeon · 12-28-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Players Union might have something to say about that but I see your point.

When Casey Hampton - - Pro Bowl caliber player - - showed up over his assigned weight in the first training camp run by Mike Tomlin, Tomlin put him in a separate part of the training camp and did not allow Hampton to work out with the rest of the team until he cut his weight - - reportedly more than 30 pounds. THEN, he made Hampton do all the fitness tests that he would have done on day one of the camp - - run a mile in less than 8 minutes and stuff like that. THEN, he put Hampton through the fitness staff until the fitness staff said he was ready for play. AND ONLY THEN, did a Pro Bowl level player get to participate with his teammates.

Please note, Mike Tomlin's team won a Super Bowl soon after that.

Please note, the Player's Union had nothing to say about that.

Please note, the Steelers do not run a training camp that is informally known around the league as a "country club camp" - - the way the Redskins' training camp is known.

12-28-2009, 01:06 PM	#1
diehardskin2982 What will Shanny do this offseason? Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,924	The Redskins Training staff Should be Fired? Do we need to bring in a new training staff? This year has been one of the worst in terms of injuries. I was listening to BMitch on 106.7 the fan today and he brought up this subject up. He felt that the training staff did not properly do their jobs to keep the player in shape and prepared for the season. That is why we lost so many players to injury. I tend to agree with him because look at the guy's like Orakpo, he was known as a workout warrior at Texas and he was in great shape for the season. He hasn't gone down do to injury. Portis on the other hand is notoriously lazy= Always hurt... What are you guy's thoughts? __________________ Let's win games now...PLEASE Last edited by diehardskin2982; 12-28-2009 at 02:59 PM.

12-28-2009, 01:09 PM	#2
Chico23231 Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 36 Posts: 7,799	re: The Redskins Training staff Should be Fired? I would agree with BMitch 100%. Flush out everybody __________________ Ready for the Draft.

12-28-2009, 01:10 PM	#3
SolidSnake84 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 1,716	re: The Redskins Training staff Should be Fired? I agree full heartedly. Guys show up waaay out of shape like Portis and they are hurt all year. This isn't the first time somebody has brought that up. The training staff evidently isn't doing much of anything.. __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

12-28-2009, 01:39 PM	#5
diehardskin2982 What will Shanny do this offseason? Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,924	re: The Redskins Training staff Should be Fired? The culture is set by the coach and GM, correct? __________________ Let's win games now...PLEASE

12-28-2009, 01:45 PM	#6
rbanerjee23 The Starter Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,320	re: The Redskins Training staff Should be Fired? You spelled 'should' wrong...and yes, the training staff needs an upgrade __________________ "Tough times don't last but tough people do" -Mike Shanahan HTTR

12-28-2009, 01:48 PM	#7
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,958	re: The Redskins Training staff Should be Fired? It's probably witchcraft. Wouldn't be the first time it has been used in sports. Ronaldo Cursed By Witch Doctor __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

12-28-2009, 01:53 PM	#9
Lotus Mann Up HOF! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 8,906	Re: The Redskins Training staff Should be Fired? Why is it that over the last few years the Cowboys have remained healthy for the most part, while we are beset by injuries again and again? __________________ Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.

12-28-2009, 02:08 PM	#11
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: The Redskins Training staff Should be Fired? Whenever the next coach of the Redskins shows up at the podium for his introductory news conference and whoever that new coach may be, there should be no one from this coaching staff who is retained. That includes the training staff. That includes the offensive, defensive, special teams and quality control folks. There needs to be a 100% turnover in the staff to try to implement a new outlook for team preparation and team performance. Next, that totally new staff needs to get rid of 50% of the players currently on the roster. Some of that 50% are overpaid divas who stand in the way of creating a "team"; others are simply not good enough. And the new coaching staff needs to make it clear to all of the players that conditioning and working out is not optional - - if the players harbor any hope of seeing the field on Sunday. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

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