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Old 01-06-2010, 09:27 AM   #91
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Put on your shit kickers when you go to ES, cause you'll have to wade through a bunch of it to find anything worthwhile.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:36 AM   #92
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Whoa Jack!!!!!!!!! Hold on there Buckaroo. Folks were having self induced orgasms when Gibbs came back as both HC and team Pres. Things didn't work out to well did they? A certain amount of skepticism is warranted after we have gone through 7 head coaches in 10 seasons. The Shanny hiring has the same pattern of Snyder getting the big name, the "sexy" pick, either coach or player to get the faithful to hang in there a few more seasons to get milked for every buck they are willing to give up. The Danny might have decided to add a new element to his old template and that is the hiring of the GM the Skins faithful have been pleading for for the past 10 years. Can the Shanny/Allen matchup be like Gibbs/Beathred? Sure!!!!! But it could also be a bust in the same right. The big question is, will the Danny keep his hands of personnel decisions form here on out? If yes, we might just have a winner. If not, it is just more of the same smoke and mirrors routine.
All due respect to Gibbs but let's look at the comparison in the hires and it's not even close when viewed in proper perspective. Gibbs had been away from the game for over a decade, not involved at any level but having success in NASCAR. He brought back the grumpy old coaches, most of whom had also been out of the game for a while. To top that off, he had Ceratto-'nuff said. The fact we had ANY success under him is a testament to his ability.

Now contrast this with Shanahan/Allen who have been out of the game, but still intimately involved, for a year. We're bringing in one of the top young offensive coordinators in the game. We're reportedly looking at bringing in an excellent and highly regarded defensive coordinator, which is the only parallel to Gibbs with Williams.

I don't think there's any comparisons in the Gibbs/Shanahallen hires.
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All due respect to Gibbs but let's look at the comparison in the hires and it's not even close when viewed in proper perspective. Gibbs had been away from the game for over a decade, not involved at any level but having success in NASCAR. He brought back the grumpy old coaches, most of whom had also been out of the game for a while. To top that off, he had Ceratto-'nuff said. The fact we had ANY success under him is a testament to his ability.

Now contrast this with Shanahan/Allen who have been out of the game, but still intimately involved, for a year. We're bringing in one of the top young offensive coordinators in the game. We're reportedly looking at bringing in an excellent and highly regarded defensive coordinator, which is the only parallel to Gibbs with Williams.

I don't think there's any comparisons in the Gibbs/Shanahallen hires.
Agreed.
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Old 01-06-2010, 08:09 PM   #94
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Gibbs won with different QB's ,Shanahan has won with only one QB....1 very good QB.

Question ,has a Head Coach who has won a Super bowl left and gone to another team and ever won a Super bowl again?
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Gibbs won with different QB's ,Shanahan has won with only one QB....1 very good QB.

Question ,has a Head Coach who has won a Super bowl left and gone to another team and ever won a Super bowl again?
I'll take a coach like MS any day of the week. Throw out all of the stats you can find. No, they haven't. Doesn't matter to me. We've got 2 pretty successful, smart, professionals at the top of our organization. It's the first time in a long time I feel pretty comfortable about that.

I feel pretty comfortable we won't get outcoached very often now. that's a pretty good feeling.
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Gibbs won with different QB's ,Shanahan has won with only one QB....1 very good QB.

Question ,has a Head Coach who has won a Super bowl left and gone to another team and ever won a Super bowl again?
Lombardi would have if he didn't die so early. Besides doesn't mean it can't happen. All you have to do is make the playoffs then go from there. Just because a coach hasn't had repeat success doesn't mean it will never happen.
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Gibbs won with different QB's ,Shanahan has won with only one QB....1 very good QB.

Question ,has a Head Coach who has won a Super bowl left and gone to another team and ever won a Super bowl again?
Gibbs also won Super Bowls in the pre-cap era, when the QB's supporting cast was in less year-to-year flux.
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Gibbs won with different QB's ,Shanahan has won with only one QB....1 very good QB.

Question ,has a Head Coach who has won a Super bowl left and gone to another team and ever won a Super bowl again?
You knew the answer which is why you asked the question. Another question. Can a team favored to win it's division after signing a ton of defensive FA's come back from laying down and giving up halfway through the season? I await your answer G-man.
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Not sure where to put it but Charlie Weis has agreed to be KC's OC.

Weis agrees to become Chiefs' offensive coordinator under Haley
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