Jason Campbells response to Portis

Hogroll · 01-06-2010, 01:46 PM

I can't help but recall a statement by Thiesmann (I think?) at the beginning of the season... he had brought up that there was some bad stuff brewing in the locker room. Clearly he knew what he was talking about.

Mattyk · 01-06-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by warriorzpath

As soon as the season ended, there were players questioning leadership. I think that's evidence enough that there was a lack of leadership.

I think those complaints had more to do with lack of leadership from the head coach. Zorn was nothing more than a figure head.

warriorzpath · 01-06-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think those complaints had more to do with lack of leadership from the head coach. Zorn was nothing more than a figure head.

No there have been players complaining that there were a lack of leaders from the players themselves.

Eknox · 01-06-2010, 01:55 PM

what players?

Mattyk · 01-06-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by warriorzpath

No there have been players complaining that there were a lack of leaders from the players themselves.

So I guess we should assume all this chatter is directed towards JC only?

GMScud · 01-06-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yeah, I really get tired of hearing people say player X doesn't get up in anyone's face, doesn't bitch anyone out, etc. Sorry but that's not leadership.

Agreed. Jason got his ass kicked repeatedly this year, was treat like a piece of garbage by the organization, and all he did was get up and keep fighting, all the while never once complaining. The class and poise with which he's handled himself is all about leadership IMO. You better believe he has the respect of the locker room. Clinton? Not so much. I'm done with him, and I think the Redskins are too. I hope.

SkinDogg · 01-06-2010, 02:03 PM

WOW! Thank you Jason for confirming what we knew all along, and most of all for being a class act since the day you stepped foot on Redskin Park. I hope to see you here next year, but don't blame you one bit if you have a UHaul double parked. Godspeed.

warriorzpath · 01-06-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

So I guess we should assume all this chatter is directed towards JC only?

No, but it's my opinion that a westcoast offensive-minded team needs the quarterback to be a leader -- if not THE leader.

And there's no evidence to support this opinion but let's make an exception this time because I KNOW that every post here needs definitive evidence when going against the grain.

Mattyk · 01-06-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by warriorzpath

No, but it's my opinion that in a westcoast offensive-minded team needs the quarterback to be a leader -- if not THE leader.

And there's no evidence to support this opinion but let's make an exception this time because I KNOW that every post here needs definitive evidence when going against the grain.

Why does a WC QB need to be more of a leader in your opinion?

CHAMP757 · 01-06-2010, 02:19 PM

Shanny just put Clinton Portis on Alert!!

warriorzpath · 01-06-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Why does a WC QB need to be more of a leader in your opinion?

Because, the team's offense is directly related to how well the qb does. And it's not just leading by performance, but it's also leading by character and discipline (disciplining others, making sure that everyone is on the same page and going in the same direction).

Campbell has character, which I can respect -- but I don't think he has the other two traits.

warriorzpath · 01-06-2010, 02:24 PM

... and a westcoast offensive-minded team is measured more by how well it does on offense.

Mattyk · 01-06-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Because, the team's offense is directly related to how well the qb does. And it's not just leading by performance, but it's also leading by character and discipline (disciplining others, making sure that everyone is on the same page and going in the same direction).

Campbell has character, which I can respect -- but I don't think he has the other two traits.

Well I think you can say that about any offense, I don't get your correlation to the west coast offense.

JC was voted team captain by his teammates, and there have been plenty of comments made in his support these last few days. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, but I don't see where JC's lack of leadership is some sort of major issue. Certainly not more so than a bad offensive line and many other issues that plagued the offense this year.

over the mountain · 01-06-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Eknox

what players?

hall before the season ended, then albert haynesworth, then daniels & wynn, then rock cartwright, then portis and now JC (who is really just responding to CP's comments but is sounding like a leader doing it).

these 5 players plus the "anonymous or unidentified players".

Redskins_P · 01-06-2010, 02:39 PM

I think most of the players will side with JC as well. CP hasn't really made any friends in the locker room...

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01-06-2010, 01:46 PM	#196
Hogroll Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cecil-tucky, MD Age: 48 Posts: 274	Re: Jason Campbells response to Portis I can't help but recall a statement by Thiesmann (I think?) at the beginning of the season... he had brought up that there was some bad stuff brewing in the locker room. Clearly he knew what he was talking about. __________________ Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein. *- Joe Theismann*

01-06-2010, 01:55 PM	#199
Eknox Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Flint,Mi Posts: 525	Re: Jason Campbells response to Portis what players?

01-06-2010, 02:03 PM	#202
SkinDogg Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 465	Re: Jason Campbells response to Portis WOW! Thank you Jason for confirming what we knew all along, and most of all for being a class act since the day you stepped foot on Redskin Park. I hope to see you here next year, but don't blame you one bit if you have a UHaul double parked. Godspeed.

01-06-2010, 02:19 PM	#205
CHAMP757 Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Newport News, Va Posts: 20	Re: Jason Campbells response to Portis Shanny just put Clinton Portis on Alert!! __________________ Officially jumped of the Clinton Portis bandwagon

01-06-2010, 02:24 PM	#207
warriorzpath The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,394	Re: Jason Campbells response to Portis ... and a westcoast offensive-minded team is measured more by how well it does on offense.

01-06-2010, 02:39 PM	#210
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sterling, VA Age: 34 Posts: 4,065	Re: Jason Campbells response to Portis I think most of the players will side with JC as well. CP hasn't really made any friends in the locker room... HomerMcFanboy » teammates tired of the portis drama

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