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View Poll Results: Mike Shanahan is the new coach of the Redskins, approve or disapprove?
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Old 01-06-2010, 08:59 AM   #106
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Executive vice president of football operations. What a joke. Florios comments mirror my own. Different people. Same old redskins.
For real...it should have been Bill Cowher EVP of Football Operations. Right!
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:02 AM   #107
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Do you know if this means Shanny will have final say on the draft SmootSmack? I would expect him to have a strong imput but I'm hoping BA has final say in that area.
Tough to say for sure right now until the whole front office shakes out. Ultimately Shanny will have final say but Allen and the other guys will have major, major input and Shanny's decisions will be essentially based on what options Allen provides.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:04 AM   #108
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I guess some ppl ( skinnytee) would think hiring Jesus himself would be a bad hire lol Seriously man this is shanny's team, Allen will also have his say in every matter.. What would make you happy? I guess some people will never be satisfied..
Considering what we're leaving behind in terms of the decision makers at the top (Snyder/Vinny) the majority of us seem to be welcoming Allen/Shanahan with open arms.

There will always be those that are never happy or eternally pessimistic. Not much you can do about that.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:26 AM   #109
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Redskins fans should all be happy today. We've got 2 professional leaders at the top of our organization. They've both had success and are running our team now. It's a great day.

It's not going to be fixed overnight though. Have a little patience. It might be a few years. We have a direction now though.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:33 AM   #110
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Executive vice president of football operations. What a joke. Florios comments mirror my own. Different people. Same old redskins.
How would Cowher have made it any different?
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:34 AM   #111
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This is best coach we've had here since Joe Gibbs first tenure with the team. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm happy.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:35 AM   #112
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This is a classic rebound choice. After a coach with little experience and control DS hires a coach with a ton of experience who exerts much more control. Kind of like when he hired Gibbs after the OBC.

DS didnt fail to make the obvious choice with lots of name recognition and I hope it works out. My only concern is Shanny's lack of success without a QB named Elway. Hopefully that problem wont follow him to DC.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:43 AM   #113
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Executive vice president of football operations. What a joke. Florios comments mirror my own. Different people. Same old redskins.

Dude are you a Redskins fan? Seriously stop bitching.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:43 AM   #114
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For real...it should have been Bill Cowher EVP of Football Operations. Right!
The Cowher thing isnt the big deal here - the big deal is that Snyder is still running the show and nothing has changed. If Snyder wasn't going to be involved, Shanahan would have had the title of Team President. Hence my comment about different people / same story.

Its clearly evident that Snyder wanted Shanahan all along. Shanahan approved of Allen so Snyder put on a pretense of changing his ways by hiring a "real GM" and letting him make all the football decisions. But we don't have a real GM. Like Vinny before him, Allen is just carrying out Snyder's bidding. If Allen were a "real GM," he would have interviewed multiple head coaching candidates. But Snyder wanted Shanahan so that's the only person who was "interviewed."

Everyone can celebrate all they want now, but time will prove that Snyder hasn't changed one bit. It'll be 2001 all over again.
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This is a classic rebound choice. After a coach with little experience and control DS hires a coach with a ton of experience who exerts much more control. Kind of like when he hired Gibbs after the OBC.

DS didnt fail to make the obvious choice with lots of name recognition and I hope it works out. My only concern is Shanny's lack of success without a QB named Elway. Hopefully that problem wont follow him to DC.
How did he do with a loser named Jake Plummer?
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How would Cowher have made it any different?
Shanahan is the coach, for better or worse. My issue is with the entire hiring process (which clearly showed Snyder selected the coach, not the GM) and his title - the same one vinny used to have. To me, its very telling that neither Shanahan or Allen have a Team President Title. No matter what is said in press conferences, Snyder is reserving final say for himself and he'll be just as involved as ever.
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The Cowher thing isnt the big deal here - the big deal is that Snyder is still running the show and nothing has changed. If Snyder wasn't going to be involved, Shanahan would have had the title of Team President. Hence my comment about different people / same story.

Its clearly evident that Snyder wanted Shanahan all along. Shanahan approved of Allen so Snyder put on a pretense of changing his ways by hiring a "real GM" and letting him make all the football decisions. But we don't have a real GM. Like Vinny before him, Allen is just carrying out Snyder's bidding. If Allen were a "real GM," he would have interviewed multiple head coaching candidates. But Snyder wanted Shanahan so that's the only person who was "interviewed."

Everyone can celebrate all they want now, but time will prove that Snyder hasn't changed one bit. It'll be 2001 all over again.
I wouldn't get too hung up on titles.

Who's to say Allen's first choice wasn't also Shanahan?

GM does not always = main decision maker. There are plenty of GMs around the league that are involved in the decison making process of their clubs, but are not the end all voice.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:56 AM   #119
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Shanahan is the coach, for better or worse. My issue is with the entire hiring process (which clearly showed Snyder selected the coach, not the GM) and his title - the same one vinny used to have. To me, its very telling that neither Shanahan or Allen have a Team President Title. No matter what is said in press conferences, Snyder is reserving final say for himself and he'll be just as involved as ever.
I've seen nothing to indicate that Snyder has final say over anything. Knowing how Shanahan operates, I highly doubt he would come here under those circumstances.

The fact that Allen and Shanahan both have the Exec. VP title only indicates to me they will be working together.
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Re: Shanahan The New Head Coach Of the Redskins

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Shanahan is the coach, for better or worse. My issue is with the entire hiring process (which clearly showed Snyder selected the coach, not the GM) and his title - the same one vinny used to have. To me, its very telling that neither Shanahan or Allen have a Team President Title. No matter what is said in press conferences, Snyder is reserving final say for himself and he'll be just as involved as ever.
I'm pretty sure when Gibbs retired he retained the Team President title but as Matty said titles are irrelevant.

So are you implying that if your favorite, Cowher, was being hired and introduced today that you'd have a different opinion of the 'process'? You're all over the place with your quarrels with the hire. First it was Shananhan was nothing without Elway, then it was his record, now it's the process.

Are you a sommelier because you sure seem to know a lot about whine.
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