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Old 01-07-2010, 10:40 AM   #61
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This is the most likely and most realistic scenario. I'd love to see what happens with Shanahan's offense with Campbell at the helm. If he doesn't develop more then I'm fine with a highly drafted QB rather than a 40 year old backup or a 6th round preseason phenom.
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Exactly. Say Campbell stays, we shore up the line, and he performs well. Extension. He doesn't, then we have another QB waiting in the wings.

I'd love for us to draft OL with our first pick, then maybe Pike in the second round.
Makes sense to me.
I would prefer taking Okung in the 1st.
I like Colt McCoy and Tebow better then Clausen and Bradford and hopefully one of them will slip.
An unlikely scenario but one i would prefer is to:
trade down in the 1st pick up a 3rd round pick
take another OL or a DT in the second
take a QB 3rd round or down a sleeper QB i like is Jarrett Brown.

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Old 01-07-2010, 11:54 AM   #62
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Old 01-07-2010, 11:57 AM   #63
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I am excited to see what Shannahan can do with Campbell. I still am hoping that we take a QB in the first. I think we can get a starting RT with the second pick. Use the forth to draft a center and either pick an LB through free agency or trade for one. I think this team is a lot closer than people are saying. The line has some good Guard prospects and I think that Levi Jones could be our LT next year.
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:08 PM   #64
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i think that would perfect for us but i doubt that campbell would want to sign a 1 year contract, why would he want to go through another year of learning a new offense just to get released the following year. Either we keep him long term or he isnt going to sign with us.

and after looking at campbell stats for another season and comparing him to other qbs around the leauge we need to lock him up and shore up our O-line.

Elway and Plummer were both worse then campbell before shanahan coached them and both ended up playing well for shanahan. (it took elway 10 years to to have his first decent season). I know shanahan didnt like campbell coming out of college but you dont pay a guy 7 million a year to rebuild a team. Snyder is paying him the big bucks to be a motivator and to get underperformer to overperform. IMO i believe shanahan will draft an OT and sign O-line free agents that fit his scheme. Right now we have big powerful guys up front (from gibbs power running scheme) shanahan would want smaller more athletic guys up front and there is only so much you can do in free agency and with samules likely to retire i believe OT is inveitable and if you keep campbell you are going to have to cut portis so second round will probably be a RB unless shanahan can find a gem in the 4th or if colt slips to the second i highly doubt we are going to have a rookie QB next year. i duno thats just my 2 cents

Excuse me, but is that John Elway you are referring to as having 10 bad years before hehad a decent season? Or did the Broncos have a QB named Marvin Elway that I missed?


Mike Shanahan did not "make" John Elway a good QB. Mike Shanahan is one hell of a good offensive coach, but attributing John Elway's success wholly to Shanahan is outrageous.


I seriously doubt that Jason Campbell himself believes that he is currently better than John Elway was until Mike Shanahan arrived in Denver.
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:15 PM   #65
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It's worth noting Elway didn't have a real big time type of season until 1993. Up until then his stats weren't anything all that special. Shanahan wasn't his HC until '95 by the way.

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Old 01-07-2010, 12:21 PM   #66
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Under Shanahans tutelage, Terrill Davis was the final piece to success for that Offense.
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It's because of the compensation (first and a third) that he won't receive an offer sheet no matter who is interested in having him.
but they could work a sign and trade like the pats did with cassel and KC.

or (im not so sure about this one), tender JC at a 1st & 3rd then trade him for a 2nd rounder like the falcons did with schaub to the texans.

can you trade a guy whose on a restricted FA contract? i assume this is what the falcons-texans did and is the most likely scenario for JCs departure if he's not with us next season.
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Old 01-07-2010, 02:45 PM   #68
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Campbell has NOT earned a spot on this roster for next year. Sorry guys. His horrible accuracy beyond 15 yards is alarming. He can't even throw a "hail mary" without it sailing out of bounds. His numbers are only there due to dinks and dunks. Might as well bring back Brunell...he can do that too.
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Old 01-07-2010, 05:22 PM   #69
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Campbell has NOT earned a spot on this roster for next year. Sorry guys. His horrible accuracy beyond 15 yards is alarming. He can't even throw a "hail mary" without it sailing out of bounds. His numbers are only there due to dinks and dunks. Might as well bring back Brunell...he can do that too.
Well I want a rookie too, but Campbell's got guts. I want him back next year to show what he can do, with a real coach. If nothing else, so our rookie does'nt get killed in his first year. Campbell earned another year to at least compete to start. He kind of won me over the way Tom Cruise won over Val Kilmer in top gun. He can QB my team anytime, or at least until Bradford is ready to take the helm. Remember, Drew Breese looked terrible until they drafted Phillip Rivers.
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Re: Campbell will compete with a rookie next yr.

Colt McCoy just became available to us in the second round.....something to consider.
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but they could work a sign and trade like the pats did with cassel and KC.

or (im not so sure about this one), tender JC at a 1st & 3rd then trade him for a 2nd rounder like the falcons did with schaub to the texans.

can you trade a guy whose on a restricted FA contract? i assume this is what the falcons-texans did and is the most likely scenario for JCs departure if he's not with us next season.
It'd technically be a sign-and-trade, but you're functionally correct.
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:16 AM   #72
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Campbell has NOT earned a spot on this roster for next year. Sorry guys. His horrible accuracy beyond 15 yards is alarming. He can't even throw a "hail mary" without it sailing out of bounds. His numbers are only there due to dinks and dunks. Might as well bring back Brunell...he can do that too.
Do you think he's at least earned a chance to compete for the job?
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Do you think he's at least earned a chance to compete for the job?
I think he has and I think he might even be the starter going into opening day. Depending on who the rookie is and how he looks, I would expect that by the end of the season JC wont be the starter because Shanny will quickly become frustrated with his inaccuracy.
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Old 01-08-2010, 06:09 PM   #74
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Re: Campbell will compete with a rookie next yr.

It's funny how Colt Brennan has become a complete afterthought. There were some on this board who saw him as the future. I still say that Jason should be #1 until someone outplays him in camp, assuming he doesn't sign elsewhere.
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It's funny how Colt Brennan has become a complete afterthought. There were some on this board who saw him as the future. I still say that Jason should be #1 until someone outplays him in camp, assuming he doesn't sign elsewhere.
Yeah i dont understand the logic of completely ignoring Brennan.
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