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Old 04-30-2010, 04:11 PM   #661
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The funny thing is up until they picked Cook and Capers I wanted the front office guys (not Allen) to leave as soon as the draft was over. Now I'm not so sure that I'd want to see them go. It's just that up to those last two picks it was clear that the guys who worked under Vinny were making the day 3 picks.

I mean even the pattern of Riley (LB) - Morris (TE turned FB) -Austin (WR) was erringly similar to the picks of Henson (LB) - Williams (TE turned FB) - Mitchell (WR) last year. Throw in the fact that they selected another player in the 7th round from UCLA and I pretty much knew that these were the guys that were partially responsible for the holy draft board that never seemed to have lineman at the top.

Now I don't want to say that two 7th round picks should be enough to convince me to want to keep around a group of scouts and personnel people but at the same time it did show that they were in fact willing to draft lineman late. Which given our current situation is definitely an improvement.

Sorry for peddling to conspiracy theory for the 10,000th time with the pick pattern but it's just something that to this day makes me scratch my head and wonder how confident these guys are in evaluating offensive and defensive lineman as opposed to DB's, LB's, WR's, and FB's.
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Old 04-30-2010, 11:36 PM   #662
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The funny thing is up until they picked Cook and Capers I wanted the front office guys (not Allen) to leave as soon as the draft was over. Now I'm not so sure that I'd want to see them go. It's just that up to those last two picks it was clear that the guys who worked under Vinny were making the day 3 picks.

I mean even the pattern of Riley (LB) - Morris (TE turned FB) -Austin (WR) was erringly similar to the picks of Henson (LB) - Williams (TE turned FB) - Mitchell (WR) last year. Throw in the fact that they selected another player in the 7th round from UCLA and I pretty much knew that these were the guys that were partially responsible for the holy draft board that never seemed to have lineman at the top.

Now I don't want to say that two 7th round picks should be enough to convince me to want to keep around a group of scouts and personnel people but at the same time it did show that they were in fact willing to draft lineman late. Which given our current situation is definitely an improvement.

Sorry for peddling to conspiracy theory for the 10,000th time with the pick pattern but it's just something that to this day makes me scratch my head and wonder how confident these guys are in evaluating offensive and defensive lineman as opposed to DB's, LB's, WR's, and FB's.
Good points, I guess Cerrato wanted the money picks to reflect on him. I mean did he ever even try to use Horton as an example of his success after that first season?
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Old 05-01-2010, 12:42 PM   #663
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The funny thing is up until they picked Cook and Capers I wanted the front office guys (not Allen) to leave as soon as the draft was over. Now I'm not so sure that I'd want to see them go. It's just that up to those last two picks it was clear that the guys who worked under Vinny were making the day 3 picks.

I mean even the pattern of Riley (LB) - Morris (TE turned FB) -Austin (WR) was erringly similar to the picks of Henson (LB) - Williams (TE turned FB) - Mitchell (WR) last year. Throw in the fact that they selected another player in the 7th round from UCLA and I pretty much knew that these were the guys that were partially responsible for the holy draft board that never seemed to have lineman at the top.

Now I don't want to say that two 7th round picks should be enough to convince me to want to keep around a group of scouts and personnel people but at the same time it did show that they were in fact willing to draft lineman late. Which given our current situation is definitely an improvement.

Sorry for peddling to conspiracy theory for the 10,000th time with the pick pattern but it's just something that to this day makes me scratch my head and wonder how confident these guys are in evaluating offensive and defensive lineman as opposed to DB's, LB's, WR's, and FB's.
You may be on to something. Given that we will have a changed personnel staff, let's see what the pattern looks like next April.
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Old 05-01-2010, 02:17 PM   #664
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You may be on to something. Given that we will have a changed personnel staff, let's see what the pattern looks like next April.
Hopefully the pattern is pro bowler, pro bowler, pro bowl snub, pro bowler, camp fodder.

Still I think I have to take a moment and give credit to none other then Vinny Cerrato. Thanks to his hiring of Zorn we were able to fire him 2 years later, bring in Bruce Allen who in turn hired Shanahan. Vinny, hiring Zorn was the best move you ever made in your 10 years in Ashburn.
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Hopefully the pattern is pro bowler, pro bowler, pro bowl snub, pro bowler, camp fodder.

Still I think I have to take a moment and give credit to none other then Vinny Cerrato. Thanks to his hiring of Zorn we were able to fire him 2 years later, bring in Bruce Allen who in turn hired Shanahan. Vinny, hiring Zorn was the best move you ever made in your 10 years in Ashburn.
That's a great analogy, in essence Vinny hiring Zorn ensured his own firing. Now that he's had time to think about it, he's probably come to the same conclusion himself.
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