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Old 01-09-2010, 11:31 AM   #61
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USC's Carroll to the Seahawks

Sources: USC Trojans' Pete Carroll, Seattle Seahawks reach agreement on coaching contract - ESPN

I'm sure Seahawk fans are happy about this.
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Old 01-09-2010, 12:10 PM   #62
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Baffling how Jim Mora got a second chance at head coach in the first place. Equally baffling is how he is 48 years old but looks like he's 28.
completely agree with both statements.... lol
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Old 01-09-2010, 12:18 PM   #63
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Baffling how Jim Mora got a second chance at head coach in the first place. Equally baffling is how he is 48 years old but looks like he's 28.
Either he's the "Dick Clark" of coaching or he doesn't coach hard enough.
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Old 01-09-2010, 01:03 PM   #64
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Why would Pete Carroll leave USC to come back to the grind of the NFL? Just doesn't make sense to me.
Let me give you just a couple of reasons he might want to leave USC for the NFL:


1. The Reggie Bush investigation is still simmering. AND a judge just ruled against Carroll who argued that the NCAA investigators could not depose him - - that means interview him under oath. Now they can and such a deposition opens the POSSIBILITY that:
a. There was involvement in the Reggie Bush mess by a coach or coaches

b. There was no knowledge or oversight from coaches which could lead to the NCAA's dreaded "lack of insitutional control" over improper behaviors.

2. The QB that he demoted to start Barkley all year has transferred from USC. He's gone and he ain't coming back.


3. Joe McKnight and his rogue SUV are also leaving USC for the NFL this year.


The surprise to me is why the Seahawks are so interested in Carroll and why the Bears reportedly lusted after him Here is is NFL head coaching history:


1. He coached the Jets for 1 year. His team started out 6-4 and lost the final 6 games of the season. Hardly what you would call a rousing success...


2. He coached the Pats for 3 years. He took over the Pats' team that went to the Super Bowl and lost to the Packers. He did not take over a team full of stumblebums. Here is what his teams did:
Year 1: Won AFC East.

Year 2: Made playoffs as a wild-card.

Year 3: Missed playoffs.
Do you see a trend there that you find attractive?
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Old 01-09-2010, 01:07 PM   #65
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Not surprised at all that he's returning to the NFL. But I'm pretty surprised that it's for the same price we got Shanahan for. Shanahan 2 rings, Carroll 0
Yeah that kind of perked my ears as well. I still kind of wonder how we got Shanahan at only 7/year. Is it likely that there's more than base pay in there? Playoff bonuses? Small ownership stake? Something?
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Of course, the deal is in place and that's why Frazier is reconsidering doing the interview it's a waste of his time. I just stating of if it was announced officially tonight then they didn't satisfy the Rooney Rule.
This is just another typical example of of how teams skirt the rule and actually flaunt their lack of respect for it. We're going to interview Frazier just to satisfy the rule, but we're going to hire Carroll. Based on the way teams are circumventing that rule one has to wonder if it should not be revisited. That's a discussion for another day and time, good luck Pete Carroll.
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Yeah that kind of perked my ears as well. I still kind of wonder how we got Shanahan at only 7/year. Is it likely that there's more than base pay in there? Playoff bonuses? Small ownership stake? Something?
Or maybe Snyder is going to stop grossly overpaying people and start paying them what they are actually worth...naaah
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Re: Mora out in Seattle, Pete Carroll in

At this point do you just pay the $200k and risk draft picks for future violations or do you find someone to do a token interview. I'm starting to get the feeling that while the Rooney rule worked to start with, pretty soon it's going to result in a backlash.
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Old 01-09-2010, 04:03 PM   #69
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So they have just totally ignored the RR rule? And people think the Redskins made a mockery of it.
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It's kind of the same as here.. they reached an agreement, Frazier is supposed to interview today... then after that Carroll can sign
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Let it rain every Sunday from September - December on the Scumhawks .... unless they are playing the cowturds or iggles .
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So they have just totally ignored the RR rule? And people think the Redskins made a mockery of it.
That's what I was thinking. Besides, we didn't do anything that others hadn't already done. The fact that we did it in-season made it seem worse to some folks.

The Rooney Rule is obviously not working as it should, though. Changes are needed.
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The Rooney Rule is working exactly as it was intended. Clubs have to interview a minority candidate...that's it. What do you want an NFL team to have to hire a minority candidate? That is un American, you should be able to hire whoever you want to. They are already being told to interview candidates that wouldn't warrant serious consideration otherwise. I don't mind the rule, but don't say that it's not working just because these candidates rarely get chosen over more qualified peers.
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Old 01-10-2010, 05:24 PM   #74
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Re: Mora out in Seattle, Pete Carroll in

I kind of think the Rooney Rule is a joke. I mean, if a team already has a candidate in mind, they're just going to grab the closest black person they can, throw an interview at them and then hire the the other person.

What was wrong with the NFL before the Rooney Rule was instated anyway?
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I kind of think the Rooney Rule is a joke. I mean, if a team already has a candidate in mind, they're just going to grab the closest black person they can, throw an interview at them and then hire the the other person.

What was wrong with the NFL before the Rooney Rule was instated anyway?
The NFL before the Rooney was GREAT, but by virtue of the low number (or non-existent) of black coaches in a pre-dominantly black sport....it was not as great for.....all.
While I agree with you that if you have your guy already, you are probably are going to hire him. AND I believe you should be able to so. IN that scenario, I think it is ineffective for THAT position.
I think it has some merit as at least you are gaining interview skills and hopefully your name is being passed around as a "possible" candidate. Sooo, the NEXT int...maybe you get a real shot.
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