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Old 01-21-2010, 10:23 AM   #16
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this whole post is a joke, but this is the biggest fallacy. once the cap goes away, it ain't coming back. you see something you like, buy it. its that simple
i realize you are just repeating what many others have said, but i think thats a big fat myth. there will be no cap in 2010, but itll be back in some form by 2011 or 2012. the owners, for the most part, WANT a salary cap... they think theyre paying players too much already. the players want a salary floor. something will be worked out.

Its also very possible that contracts written before a new CBA is reached (probably sometime in 2011) will not have to apply by all of the rules of the new CBA. Or, more likely, the contracts would apply, but non-compliant teams would face less strict penalties for non-compliance before the New CBA vs. non-compliance after the new CBA.

Whatever the case, I don't think teams should worry too much about the potential future ramifications of contracts signed in the capless year. I also think Dansby is a near-lock to become a Redskin if he choses not to resign with Arizona.
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No way should we go after this guy. Wilson will do fine in a 3-4. Paying another free agent is not the way to go. We've been down this road way too many times.
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No way should we go after this guy. Wilson will do fine in a 3-4. Paying another free agent is not the way to go. We've been down this road way too many times.
that road has only hurt us because of the salary cap - overspending in free agency in one year meant disaster 3-4 years down the road. The only thing the team needs to avoid is TRADING TOO MANY DRAFT PICKS for veteran players. That is something that will screw a team over whether there's a cap or not.
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No way should we go after this guy. Wilson will do fine in a 3-4. Paying another free agent is not the way to go. We've been down this road way too many times.
Yeah, that was with freaking Vinny. Also, isn't Dansby an ILB, as opposed to Wilson who would probably be an OLB in a 3-4? As I said, all of this would be worth looking for the right price. Signing Dansby wouldn't take away from drafting the offensive linemen that we need.
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that road has only hurt us because of the salary cap - overspending in free agency in one year meant disaster 3-4 years down the road. The only thing the team needs to avoid is TRADING TOO MANY DRAFT PICKS for veteran players. That is something that will screw a team over whether there's a cap or not.
Good point. As I mentioned, this is the first free agent that anyone has brought up who's not going to be restricted, hence we won't need to trade anything to get him.
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What is everyone bashing Rocky for? He came back this year after his first year back from knee surgery and was second only to London. How is that bad or mediocre? Sure, we are lacking a good amount of depth, but how many teams can say that when an LB goes down they have someone to back them up?

I wouldn't be opposed to taking an LB in the draft or signing a decent deal in FA, but we have so many more holes to fill and this is a group that's average to above average if anything.
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What is everyone bashing Rocky for? He came back this year after his first year back from knee surgery and was second only to London. How is that bad or mediocre? Sure, we are lacking a good amount of depth, but how many teams can say that when an LB goes down they have someone to back them up?

I wouldn't be opposed to taking an LB in the draft or signing a decent deal in FA, but we have so many more holes to fill and this is a group that's average to above average if anything.
Who's bashing Rocky?


Where do you think Rocky would/could fit in a 3-4 scheme? As an OLB or ILB?
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What is everyone bashing Rocky for? He came back this year after his first year back from knee surgery and was second only to London. How is that bad or mediocre? Sure, we are lacking a good amount of depth, but how many teams can say that when an LB goes down they have someone to back them up?

I wouldn't be opposed to taking an LB in the draft or signing a decent deal in FA, but we have so many more holes to fill and this is a group that's average to above average if anything.
Yeah who knows. The guy is a pretty solid LB.
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What is everyone bashing Rocky for? He came back this year after his first year back from knee surgery and was second only to London. How is that bad or mediocre? Sure, we are lacking a good amount of depth, but how many teams can say that when an LB goes down they have someone to back them up?

I wouldn't be opposed to taking an LB in the draft or signing a decent deal in FA, but we have so many more holes to fill and this is a group that's average to above average if anything.
Ive noticed this before on the board, I dont understand it either. People believe somehow we need/can to get stars at every position. Rocky has been solid since he has been here and needs to be extended IMO.
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LB isnt a dire need, but i'd say its more of a need if we stick with a 4-3. Picking up Dansby would allow us to move Orakpo to DE full-time and dramatically improve our front 7. It would also allow Blades to focus on developing at MLB to eventually replace Fletcher.

In any case, if there's no salary cap, and we're not giving up draft picks, then there's no reason not to upgrade every position, including those that are already "strengths." Honestly, Pass-catching TE and Strong Safety are the only positions on our roster where I feel there's no reason to even consider upgrading.
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dansby is good but not elite. i think he will want elite type money. not suggs money but something more than i would like to see us give to a guy who doesnt really impact the game or make big plays.

we could sign dhani jones and get similar production imo for alot less money.
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dansby is good but not elite. i think he will want elite type money. not suggs money but something more than i would like to see us give to a guy who doesnt really impact the game or make big plays.

we could sign dhani jones and get similar production imo for alot less money.
dansby will probably get more money than he's worth, but so what? capless year.

besides, jones is old as crap. atleast with dansby, we could count on him performing at a high level for the next 5-6 years.
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that road has only hurt us because of the salary cap - overspending in free agency in one year meant disaster 3-4 years down the road. The only thing the team needs to avoid is TRADING TOO MANY DRAFT PICKS for veteran players. That is something that will screw a team over whether there's a cap or not.
I just don't see a big upside with this guy. He's not a big sack guy and he just came off a defense that got trashed in the playoffs. No thanks. I'd like to see what Wilson can do in a 3-4. It did wonders for Elvis Dumerville so I'd rather go that route.
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dansby will probably get more money than he's worth, but so what? capless year.

besides, jones is old as crap. atleast with dansby, we could count on him performing at a high level for the next 5-6 years.
no cap in 2010 doesnt mean there is not going to be a cap in 2011.

plus, im under the impression that you cant structure contracts front loaded in the uncapped year. i.e. give dansby 12 mil in 2010 then have his salary drop to 2 mil for the remaining years. pretty much, to my understanding, there are clauses and conditions in place to restrict teams from totally taking advantage of the uncapped year and knocking the competitve balance and pay scales off kilt.

if dhani is "old as crap" then im old as crap too since we are the same age and grew up together. besides if dhani comes to the skins, OTM is going to some games for free!!
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that road has only hurt us because of the salary cap - overspending in free agency in one year meant disaster 3-4 years down the road. The only thing the team needs to avoid is TRADING TOO MANY DRAFT PICKS for veteran players. That is something that will screw a team over whether there's a cap or not.
the road has hurt us cause we pick the wrong guys that only want to come here to get paid. yeah we've hit on some but since this team has so many needs it just doesn't make sense to go out and spend big money on a player like dansby. i'd go out and try and see if new england has any intentions of paying logan mankins.
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