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Old 01-21-2010, 02:49 PM   #31
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the road has hurt us cause we pick the wrong guys that only want to come here to get paid. yeah we've hit on some but since this team has so many needs it just doesn't make sense to go out and spend big money on a player like dansby. i'd go out and try and see if new england has any intentions of paying logan mankins.
I think a lot of people here were saying that if the price is right. Hopefully with the new FO, the team does a better job at handling these contracts with any free agent acquisition.

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Good player, but there's nothing really special about him. Big play ability, misses some easier plays, etc. He'd be a small upgrade over Rocky, but there's no reason to go this route.
Gtripp, with the current LBs and DEs that we have, what would be your lineup of LBs in a 3-4 scheme?
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If there is one "unit" on a 4-12 Redskins' team that can be called "solid" linebacking would be that unit. Spending big bucks on a linebacker this year - - remember, a cap will be coming in future years if not in 2010 - - would not be a good strategic move.


Dansby is good. I'd pass...
You couldn't be more wrong. Fletcher and McIntosh are great, but between Orakpo's part-time out-of-position play at LB along with Blades and Wilson...we're very shallow at the position.
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Good player, but there's nothing really special about him. Big play ability, misses some easier plays, etc. He'd be a small upgrade over Rocky, but there's no reason to go this route.
I agree. I keep hearing about Dansby and I know he's been franchised before by the Cards, but seeing him play he doesn't exactly blow my socks off. He could probably help but I wouldn't expect anything spectacular from him.
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No thanks. I would keep our base 4-3 alignment the same. While giving a 3-4look I would have:

RE-Haynesworth, NT-a 330lbs+ low round compensatory pick, LE-Jarmon or Alexander

ROLB-Wilson, ILB-McIntosh, ILB-Fletcher, LOLB- Orakpo
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Ive noticed this before on the board, I dont understand it either. People believe somehow we need/can to get stars at every position. Rocky has been solid since he has been here and needs to be extended IMO.
Yeah, you can't have a pro-bowler at every spot. You're going to have to have some average and maybe below players at a few spots.. teamwork and schemes help make up for that
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I just don't see a big upside with this guy. He's not a big sack guy and he just came off a defense that got trashed in the playoffs. No thanks. I'd like to see what Wilson can do in a 3-4. It did wonders for Elvis Dumerville so I'd rather go that route.
MLBs aren't big pass rushers typically man.. that's more de, olb, ss, etc

he can elevate those around him but not the whole D
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Gtripp, with the current LBs and DEs that we have, what would be your lineup of LBs in a 3-4 scheme?
Fletcher and Blades on the inside, Wilson and Orakpo on the outside.

McIntosh plays in long yardage situations in all fronts (anything 8+ that's not first and ten). Heavy use of nickel packages where Carter and Orakpo are the ends, and Blades and Fletcher are the backers.
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No thanks. I would keep our base 4-3 alignment the same. While giving a 3-4look I would have:

RE-Haynesworth, NT-a 330lbs+ low round compensatory pick, LE-Jarmon or Alexander

ROLB-Wilson, ILB-McIntosh, ILB-Fletcher, LOLB- Orakpo
You could use Anthony Montgomery (330 lbs) at NT...or what I assume would be a low cost NT would be Aubrayo Franklin from the 49ers (someone mentioned him before) who has experience as a NT.
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"Dansby at the right price." What a laugh. FA come here because they get max contracts with fat signing bonuses. He's a really good football player but I'm sure he'd want elite money and I don't know how we could pay him and fill all the gaps at OL, RB, QB, LB, DB etc.
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"Dansby at the right price." What a laugh. FA come here because they get max contracts with fat signing bonuses. He's a really good football player but I'm sure he'd want elite money and I don't know how we could pay him and fill all the gaps at OL, RB, QB, LB, DB etc.
Not that I'm strongly advocating for Dansby but here's how you fill these gaps

OL: Draft Okung with the #4, and pick up a solid free agent at Guard (Kuper if he's unrestricted from Denver.

RB: Draft one in the 4th round (a la Tashard Choice), find two serviceable RBs from either our roster or free agency, run a three-headed RB monster.

QB: Keep Campbell, draft a 2nd rounder QB.

LB: That's a tough one, we may need to wait until the following year (if there's football). Dansby for the right price would help (keep in mind that we're in the post-Vinny era).

DB: You got me on that one, but then again we're not going to fill all of our areas of need just one year of draft and free agency.
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Keep in mind that Vinny wanted to draft Jerod Mayo with our 21st pick, but the pats picked him so we traded for 2 second rounders getting fred davis, and devin thomas
Don't remind me...we could have picked up Sam Baker with that pick (which ATL used).
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Keep in mind that Vinny wanted to draft Jerod Mayo with our 21st pick, but the pats picked him so we traded for 2 second rounders getting fred davis, and devin thomas
The Fred Davis/Devin Thomas acquisition isn't looking so bad right now.
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Not that I'm strongly advocating for Dansby but here's how you fill these gaps

OL: Draft Okung with the #4, and pick up a solid free agent at Guard (Kuper if he's unrestricted from Denver.

RB: Draft one in the 4th round (a la Tashard Choice), find two serviceable RBs from either our roster or free agency, run a three-headed RB monster.

QB: Keep Campbell, draft a 2nd rounder QB.

LB: That's a tough one, we may need to wait until the following year (if there's football). Dansby for the right price would help (keep in mind that we're in the post-Vinny era).

DB: You got me on that one, but then again we're not going to fill all of our areas of need just one year of draft and free agency.
I like your ideas.

As far as FA goes, I think we should be conservative meaning we shouldn't throw record contracts to every Tom, Dick and Harry. Agents foam at the mouth around this time of year because they know Danny will pony up top dollar without hesitation to sign a marquee talent. We've done this year after year and the formula hasn't worked.

I guess we're going to see what happens with the uncapped year, how Bruce handles the cap and the boss and see what Shannahan wants to do personnel-wise.
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Keep in mind that Vinny wanted to draft Jerod Mayo with our 21st pick, but the pats picked him so we traded for 2 second rounders getting fred davis, and devin thomas
the first time i heard vinny say he was targeting mayo was a year after the draft after mayo had won defensive rookie of the year. for whatver thats worth . . .

in the same interview i heard he said he didnt have any olineman rated as a 1st rounder and thats why he traded back from the 21st spot.

and he had thomas rated as a 1st round talent ala jacobs.
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Mayo was definitely on the radar, though even if the Pats didn't take him at 11 it seemed doubtful he would have stuck around until 21.
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