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Old 01-30-2010, 09:50 AM   #16
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Re: This Offseason - BE THE OWNER!!!!!

I didnt think he said anything like that. God I hope we dont get Bradford and Shanny develops Pike.

My fingers are crossed
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Old 01-30-2010, 11:59 AM   #17
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I know. I wanted him to show where he saw it. I didn't think he could.
If that was said the local sports media would be all over that. Mostly the fan, they will jump on anything to criticize the team. But 980 would be all over it as well.
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Old 01-30-2010, 01:41 PM   #18
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I didnt think he said anything like that. God I hope we dont get Bradford and Shanny develops Pike.

My fingers are crossed
Pike? I'd rather just take an OL then draft Pike. Nothing I've seen on him looks promising except for his height. No durability, arm strength, nor experience in a pro style offense. Heck he played in a spread offense and broke the 2,500 yard mark once and that was just barely. Colt Brenan is a much better option then Pike.

As for Bradford. You'll be eating crow by 2012.
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Old 01-30-2010, 02:50 PM   #19
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Re: This Offseason - BE THE OWNER!!!!!

Brandon Marshall
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FA-OL
draft-OL
draft-RB
draft-OL
move landry to SS
sign a FA-FS
trade JC, ARE, and Carter in a package deal, get 2nd, 3rd, 7th for the 2011 draft
release Clinton Portis
sign J. Norwood
change my D to 46.

get ready for the 2010-2011 season.
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:37 PM   #20
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I guess people don't understand that uncapped year = needing to give up picks for the likes of Marshall or any other RFA like him.
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:56 PM   #21
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Fine I'll do this as GM/Coach

1st - Bradford (QB Oklahoma)
2nd - Brown (T USC) or DuCasse (T UMASS) Basically the best available Tackle
4th - Mike Johnson (G Alabama)
5th - Jason Fox (T Miami)
7th - Blount (RB Oregon)

Sign Ben Hamilton
Look into signing Eugene Amano (C/G Titans)
Try to sign Chris Kuper if he isn't a RFA.
Sign Peyton Hillis (RB)
Bring in Daryn Colledge if he's granted a clean release by Green Bay.


Go into next season with JC as the starter unless Bradford beats him in camp.

On the line keep Edwin Williams, Kory Lichtensteiger, Levi Jones, Stephon Heyer, Casey Rabach, Dockery, and Chad Rinehart for camp, after that cut the worse of the bunch. Ironically a lot of cutting should be expected granted that I have us going into camp with as many as 13 or 14 lineman. End up keepign 10. Rinehart, Heyer, Fox, and even Rabach are most likely to get cut. Fox would go on the practice squad.

Bring in a few defensive free agents and plan on a defensively heavy draft in 2011.

Offensive Line Could Look Like This Italics denotes new player:
LT - 2nd Round Pick - Jones
LG - Dockery - Johnson
C - Rabach - Williams
RG - Hamilton or Kuper (preferably Kuper) - Lichtensteiger
RT - Colledge - Fox

Personally I really like the three backup guys on the interior of the O-Line to become starters in a year or two.

Thats basically all I have.
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:24 PM   #22
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I just dont understand why ppl wouldnt like Shanny bringing up Pike. He is very similar to Elway in alot of respects. The arm, slightly mobile, and very good vision and a smart guy. Only thing I can think of is him missing a year of starting at QB compared with Elway, but that is why he carries the clipboard and is learning the first year.

I think he could be the next Elway, although Bradford (With his glass shoulder holding up) could also be as well. Both are good options, but we could get Pike for alot cheaper, plus get a premier tackle for him for years to come. But both options are winners in my opinion. I guess I would just like to see the skins actually draft a QB, get him seasoned, turn over the reigns and actually have a winner. With our history at drafting bust QB's, I think that Shanny could be the coach to turn that trend around, and the physical specimen in Pike I think if he adds say 15-20 lbs, could be perfect!
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Old 01-31-2010, 01:55 AM   #23
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If I am the owner of the Skins, I realize that I have already hired a coach with Super Bowl rings and a GM who helped to assemble a team that won a Super Bowl. Give me two gold stars...


This offseason, I give those guys a budget figure and tell them not to exceed it. That figure includes everything from player salaries to costs of training camp to scouting to equipment to post-game buffets. I will demand that they call me any time they sign a free agent from some other team so I can keep a running list of my roster. I will also be sure to read the newspapers the day after the draft is over to see what new blood they got from the college ranks,


Once that budget figure is set, I go about my life trying to attend to my other business interests until Opening Day of the 2010 season whereupon I will be in my owners box - - if it is a home game - - or in the suite provided for the visiting owner - - if it is an away game.


My role would be to get the Hell out of the way of these two guys that I just hired and spent about $50M to bring to DC...
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:04 AM   #24
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Re: This Offseason - BE THE OWNER!!!!!

Like someone else mentioned earlier, if I'm the owner I admit I suck as a personnel guy, I leave it up to Allen and Shannahan while I go work on my golf game...

I get rid of the 400 level seats at FedEx field and replace them with an overhang like the old RFK Stadium...I cut back the clubhouse seats by half and replace them with GA seats to replace the ones that were lost by eliminating the nosebleeds...Finally I donate my owner's box to charity and go hang out in the stands with the rest of the fans al-la Mark Cuban...OH and I cut beer, food and ticket prices by 20%...

I also hire a traffic engineer to figure out the parking at Fed Ex field and eliminate paid parking.
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Old 01-31-2010, 10:42 AM   #25
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Well if I was rich and young like DS I would not be married. So with that said I'd be hitting on hot chicks cruising all around on my yacht picking up a new chick in every port. I just have all the mgrs. and choaches keep me informed by phone or one of those video meeting things.
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Old 01-31-2010, 02:20 PM   #26
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i would start with the o- line.
tackle- draft pick
guard- Rinehart
center- Williams
guard- Dockery
tackle- free agent
T.E- i would trade either Cooley or Davis( which ever had better value) for a draft pick(s)
WR- Moss
Kelly
Thomas
RB- Portis
QB- Campbell( this would be his last)

defense
DE- Carter
Orakpo
DT- Haynesworth
Griffin( this would be his last)
LB- Macintosh
Fletcher
free agent( Dansby?)
CB- Rogers
Hall
safety- Landry( would be his last, unless greatly improved)
draft pick, or free agent
the kicking game would remain the same. with Gano and Smith.
KR- Hall, Thomas, and maybe Moss
and there would be rules. if you dont practice by Friday, you dont play
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Old 01-31-2010, 02:22 PM   #27
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If I am Snyder then I am giving the team to 53Fan as a late Christmas present.
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Old 01-31-2010, 03:17 PM   #28
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Okay, I'll give this a dry run.

First off, the draft. Lets first of all get rid of this #4 pick, and get us some more picks.

Our Number 4 pick plus ARE, for......Arizonas 26th pick, Steve Breaston and a 3rd Rounder.
wait what?

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Maybe a stretch, but some could say that is fair. okay, draft either Bulaga from Iowa or Campbell from USC. Both could step in as first year starters and would be a major upgrade. Lets say Samuels doesn't retire......BAMMO, your tackles are taken care of, Pro Bowler and an athletic rookie to fit nicely into Shannys zone blocking scheme.
I'm with the first part.. but I think that if Samuels comes back we honestly need to cut him or rely on him as a backup only. I'd hate to be the guy that played someone knowing what might happen

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Next, with our second round pick, lets go down to TCU, and grab a BIG, but deceivingly FAST guard Newhouse. Im wagering that if he is as fast as scouts think he is, his stock value might rise and he wont be here for us to snag, but here is to hoping. He also steps right in to start.
don't know anything about him since I don't follow much college ball

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Our third rounder, well, I say you gotta get Pike here. I've been saying this since the middle of the college season. This kid is John Elway plus three inches. Give this guy to Shanny, let him ride the pine and carry the clipboard under JC for just one year, put him in in a couple games here and there this year, and then let him start in 2011, given we even have a season. He could be a Hall of Famer, given the right coach. Shanny had Elway from early on, now he gets Pike from the absolute START!!! I smell a SUPER BOWL sometime in our future!!!!!!!
we don't have a 3rd (jarmon supplemental draft pick)

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LB - SIGN MERRIMAN!!!! With the line we have, he is the type of LB that would benefit from guys like we have up front. His fire will be reignited, plus, I dont think San Diego is going to offer him squat compared to what he was making there previously. In swoops Dan Snyder for the pick off. Offer Merriman a little more than the other bidders, and Solidify our second line of defense, literally. Merriman, Fletcher, McIntosh. You got your LB's.

Secondary - Dunta Robinson from the Texans. Get rid of Rogers. Keep Laron Landry, and then get his brother from the Ravens and you got your secondary.

Give Breaston the number 1 WR slot over Moss, move Moss to numer 2, and thomas slides into the slot.
that's a lot of FA moves.. dawan is an RFA with supposedly a pretty solid tender, so the ravens probably hold onto him, apparently the jets are interested in him if they get rid of rhodes.. merriman might be a solid move.. i doubt that the trade that you mentioned happens.. doubt that we get dunta, he said he wants to stay with houston even if they franchise him again
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Portis gets one more season with Shanny to redeem himself and hopefully get back to form with those 5+ ypc averages he had in those seasons in Denver. Hoping for alot, but in the end, I think its doable.
i'm fine with that
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So, how'd I do????
interestingly, not bad suggestions just can't see a lot of them happening
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Old 01-31-2010, 04:14 PM   #29
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Old 01-31-2010, 10:50 PM   #30
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Alright let's see. Assuming I'm the GM not owner...blah blah....

Cutting: ARE, rabach, smoot, wynn, phillip daniels, todd collins, samuels and randy thomas, cartwright, betts, griffin

Resigning: anthony montgomery, chris wilson, hunter smith, jason campbell, golston, levi jones(depth), lorenzo alexander, quinton ganther, mike williams (depth), reed doughty (special teams), mcintosh, yoder, and heyer (depth).

Try to trade moss for picks or cut him, and try to trade rogers for picks, or resign him at a reasonable deal.

I think there's a better chance of trading down from our 2nd rd pick than our 1st. That being said, here's what I'd like out of the draft:

1st - Berry. If he's gone, then okung, and if somehow both are gone then gerald mccoy (assuming suh's gone too). I like berry as the top talent in the draft, and we'd certainly be getting our money's worth by taking him. Okung's good, but not THAT much better than the rest of the tackles in the draft - likewise with the QBs. Drafting berry lets us move landry to SS, and could give us a spectacular FS for the next decade. With a top 5 pick, you have to go for best available, regardless of need.

2nd - trade down for a later second rounder and late third rounder (think 17th/18th in both 2nd and 3rd rounds). With the later second round pick take Charles Brown, OT, USC. Perfect fit for zone blocking scheme, and OT is clearly a big need

3rd - Tony Pike/Dan LeFevour. Both have decent arms and upsides, and could be developed by shanny.

4th - I like taking a CB here, specifically someone like akwasi owusu-ansah. Good size, speed, and the most important part: return skills. Would be a great special teams player for us, and we can use more depth at CB, especially with carlos rogers' status being questionable and getting rid of smoot.

5th - Jacob hickman, C, Nebraska. I really just can't stand casey rabach and want to see him gone. If we address center in FA (see below), then I like OT/OG/RB here

6th/7th - OT/OG/RB in both rounds


FA: I think our chief concerns to address in FA are LB, WR, and OL depth. One name I'd really really like to sign is Eugene Amano from the Titans. He's a great youngish center who can also play guard, and we could probably get him for a really good value. For LB, if we can get dansby for a decent price, I say we do it, so orakpo can move to DE. Even a slighty questionable price would be okay (deangelo hall deal-esque) Another good option would be merriman here. Then we need to find a WR in FA as well, whether it's kevin walter, antonio bryant, or brandon marshall (depending on ease of acquisition due to FA restrictions). I think we also sign peyton hillis from denver. Then we need to decide whether we're trying to be a 3-4 team or not - vince wilfork would deserve a long hard look if that is our long term goal. Lastly, perhaps address the kicking game by signing gostkowski; I'm unsure if gano is the long term answer, although I do like the guy and would like to give him a chance.
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