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Old 02-08-2010, 09:00 AM   #211
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Re: Super Bowl XLIV Gameday Thread: Saints vs. Colts

I didnt think this game was especially exciting but when the Saints went for it on 4th (getting stuffed) and then pulled off the onside kick I knew they were going to let it all hang out to win so I was glad they won.
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I knew there would be atleast one article about Peyton's tendency to "choke" in big games, after he threw that last pick to end the game... I don't really believe all that crap since he has won a SB... Sure it was against Rex Grossman but he won the big game. Most of my buddies think he's still a "choke artist" and I think there's some good arguments to be made for either way

Peyton Manning: Back to being a choker? - Shutdown Corner - NFL Blog - Yahoo! Sports
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:03 AM   #213
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Greg Williams is a great defensive coordinator. End of discussion. I think there are a few coaches out there that actually make a difference and he is one of them....along with Rex Ryan. Not sure if he will ever get a shot again as a head coach but he deserves one.

Payton has big big balls and I bet he learned that aggressive style while coaching under Parcells.
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:08 AM   #214
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I knew there would be atleast one article about Peyton's tendency to "choke" in big games, after he threw that last pick to end the game... I don't really believe all that crap since he has won a SB... Sure it was against Rex Grossman but he won the big game. Most of my buddies think he's still a "choke artist" and I think there's some good arguments to be made for either way

Peyton Manning: Back to being a choker? - Shutdown Corner - NFL Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Manning didnt choke, his WRs did. Many times PM delivered great passes in the face of pressure only to have his WRs drop the ball. Garcon & Wayne both dropped big passes that really could have changed the game.
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Outside of the pick which was simply a great play by Porter, Manning played great. I don't buy the choke talk at all.
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Outside of the pick which was simply a great play by Porter, Manning played great. I don't buy the choke talk at all.
thats basically what the article says
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:19 AM   #217
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Brady's Super Bowls always came with a great defense. I've always felt Mannings teams made the playoffs in spite of how mediocre the team actually was. They were last in the league in rushing this year and still made the Super Bowl. Manning deserves a lot of credit for this. Throughout NE's SB years, if Manning had been their QB, they would have won just as many if not more IMO. I don't think Brady would have had nearly as much success on the Colts.
No they didn't. Brady didn't play for the 86 Bears or the 2000 Ravens. His Defenses were good, not great. AND Manning has had WAY MORE talent around him, yet he consistently under-achieves. As a matter of fact, if it weren't for Brady's pathetic Receivers (future hall of famers, Troy Brown and Jabar Gaffney) dropping passes, last night would have been Manning's first Super Bowl. Manning is this generations Dan Marino. Brady is this generation's Joe Montana. Manning has 29TDs and 18INTs in the playoffs. AVERAGE!

Manning is Brady's bitch!
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No they didn't. Brady didn't play for the 86 Bears or the 2000 Ravens. His Defenses were good, not great. AND Manning has had WAY MORE talent around him, yet he consistently under-achieves. As a matter of fact, if it weren't for Brady's pathetic Receivers (future hall of famers, Troy Brown and Jabar Gaffney) dropping passes, last night would have been Manning's first Super Bowl. Manning is this generations Dan Marino. Brady is this generation's Joe Montana. Manning has 29TDs and 18INTs in the playoffs. AVERAGE!

Manning is Brady's bitch!
many would argue if you take the rings out marino is a much better qb than montana
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:38 AM   #219
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many would argue if you take the rings out marino is a much better qb than montana
Absolutely, Marino is the best QB to ever play but he doesnt have any rings. Its not like this is golf where one man controls his own destiny, its a team game and maybe if Miami had a D he might have won a few titles.
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Why do we have to have these silly arguments about who is the greatest of all time?
Montana, Manning, Marino, Bradshaw, Brady, Jurgensen, etc. were all great. Different strengths and weakness'.
Brees played great once he heated up in after the 2nd quarter. Might he win another SB?
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Forget who said it but I like the argument of best of their time. Makes a little more sense to do it that way since you really can't fairly compare across different eras of the game.
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No they didn't. Brady didn't play for the 86 Bears or the 2000 Ravens. His Defenses were good, not great. AND Manning has had WAY MORE talent around him, yet he consistently under-achieves. As a matter of fact, if it weren't for Brady's pathetic Receivers (future hall of famers, Troy Brown and Jabar Gaffney) dropping passes, last night would have been Manning's first Super Bowl. Manning is this generations Dan Marino. Brady is this generation's Joe Montana. Manning has 29TDs and 18INTs in the playoffs. AVERAGE!

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BS. There was no comparison between Indy's defense and NE's during those years. They might not have been the Bears or Ravens but they were pretty damn good. To say otherwise is just ignorant.
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many would argue if you take the rings out marino is a much better qb than montana
Take the rings out?!?! Let's take out TD passes while we're at it. And passing yards too.

Marino was awesome. Manning is awesome. No argument here.
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Forget who said it but I like the argument of best of their time. Makes a little more sense to do it that way since you really can't fairly compare across different eras of the game.
good point espescially when we know sammy baugh was the greatest to ever play the game
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BS. There was no comparison between Indy's defense and NE's during those years. They might not have been the Bears or Ravens but they were pretty damn good. To say otherwise is just ignorant.
And there's no comparison between Indy's offense and NEs during those years either. Nobody said the Pats had bad Defenses those years, but they aren't even in the discussion of all time great Defenses. Like you said, they were pretty damn good. Not great!

Before this year, Manning was 0-3 when his team was the #1 seed going into the playoffs. Compare his team's regular seasons to their playoff performances, and they chronically UNDER-ACHIEVE!
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