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Old 02-08-2010, 04:06 PM   #31
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Yeah but what about D-Lineman on the interior? What position would they be allowed to play in?
The bitch position?

Good point. Probably a stand up position in a gap. Basically, this is a change that would take 320 lb nose tackles out of the game entirely. Which, im sure, is part of the goal of preventing concussions.
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The bitch position?

Good point. Probably a stand up position in a gap. Basically, this is a change that would take 320 lb nose tackles out of the game entirely. Which, im sure, is part of the goal of preventing concussions.
Hey I spent some time at Nosetackle, even though I was undersized.

I guess though the NFL's other goal is to tackle obesity and $100 million players that can't breathe.
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:26 PM   #33
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:33 PM   #34
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By the time this a-hole Goodell is finished with his tinkering of the greatest sport in the world it will be completely non contact flag football. I see alot of retired older players, esp. lineman and they seem fine, hell look at our great Russ Grimm, how many heads did he bang. I dont know anything anymore, good ol Roger knows everything and he needs to b replaced and I say we start collecting money to rent a sign on the side of a bus, or was it the tail gate of a truck, whatever.
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Re: The end of the three point stance?

How many offensive and defensive lineman in history have ever either gotten a concussion or left the game because of one? I cannot think of any. It seems to me that this is just lip service from the commissioner to keep congress from breathing down the NFL's neck.
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How many offensive and defensive lineman in history have ever either gotten a concussion or left the game because of one? I cannot think of any. It seems to me that this is just lip service from the commissioner to keep congress from breathing down the NFL's neck.
The only thing that the three point stance could concievably be responsible for his the mangled hands of lineman and that won't stop by eliminating the three point stance. Unless of course we have another "genius" rule change on the horizon.

I mean wedge rule, didn't necessarily agree with it but it was enough to keep players safe while not fundamentally changing the game.
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:15 PM   #37
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The National Flag League it will be this soon.

I'd call it the National [Gay] League.

They've insulated the QB (except JC) from virtually any hits, made the chop-block illegal (which is a good rule IMO), horse collar...illegal, head to head contact (that call on Ray Lewis was in the playoffs was BS)...illegal, hits on defenseless WR...illegal. Now they want to take the three point stance out of the game. Why even play the game? It's a violent game and they're well compensated. If they don't like it, they can work for a living. And damn these owners and league officials. All they care about as someone said earlier, is their investment. They're ruining the game.

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Old 02-08-2010, 11:28 PM   #38
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I think the title of this article is a tad misleading and seems to have people in a tizzy. If you read the article it says he's not ruling out the idea of banning the 3 point stance... not that anything is in the works to do so like the title suggests. Relax folks, he's just keeping his options open. This would be a pretty drastic change and I don't see it happening.
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Clips worth watching regarding concussions

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I think the title of this article is a tad misleading and seems to have people in a tizzy. If you read the article it says he's not ruling out the idea of banning the 3 point stance... not that anything is in the works to do so like the title suggests. Relax folks, he's just keeping his options open. This would be a pretty drastic change and I don't see it happening.
Options like this need to be closed ASAP.
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Old 02-09-2010, 02:29 PM   #41
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How many offensive and defensive lineman in history have ever either gotten a concussion or left the game because of one? I cannot think of any. It seems to me that this is just lip service from the commissioner to keep congress from breathing down the NFL's neck.
There was that play when Warren Sapp got a blind side hit on Chad Clifton and if I remember right that was far away from the play on an INT. However that was long after the initial contact that came from firing out of a three point stance and the rule was addressed that off-season.

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On November 24, 2002, at Raymond James Stadium, Sapp drew criticism for blocking the Green Bay Packers' Chad Clifton during an interception return by the Buccaneers. Clifton was jogging down field, away from the main action, and was blindsided by Sapp.[7] The hit sent Clifton to the hospital. He was hospitalized for almost a week and could not walk unaided for five more weeks. In 2005, the NFL Competition Committee agreed on new guidelines for "unnecessary roughness", making hits such as that suffered by Clifton illegal.
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Do people really believe that linemen have never gotten concussions during their playing days nor suffered long-term affects after their careers are over? Football is a brutal, violent sport any players at all positions (save for maybe punter and kicker) have felt damaging affects long after their careers are over. And in the cases of some, their lives haven't lasted long past their careers. Football is a tough sport and should be, but that doesn't mean it needs to be deadly and dangerous.
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^^ Apparently, according to the clips Matty linked, the doctors hired by the NFL do.
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Do people really believe that linemen have never gotten concussions during their playing days nor suffered long-term affects after their careers are over? Football is a brutal, violent sport any players at all positions (save for maybe punter and kicker) have felt damaging affects long after their careers are over. And in the cases of some, their lives haven't lasted long past their careers. Football is a tough sport and should be, but that doesn't mean it needs to be deadly and dangerous.
Most of the problems I hear with lineman post-football are related to their backs and hands. I agree we need to make the game safer, but I honestly don't believe making it illegal to get in a three point stance is a way to do that.
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Most of the problems I hear with lineman post-football are related to their backs and hands. I agree we need to make the game safer, but I honestly don't believe making it illegal to get in a three point stance is a way to do that.
Here are two examples for you

ESPN Classic - Former Steeler Webster dies at age 50

"Webster was the last of the 22 Steelers who played on all four Super Bowl championship teams to leave the team, and the first to die. He refused to leave the lineup even for serious injuries, once playing six straight seasons without missing a snap.

However, that tough-guy insistence on playing hurt may have led to the brain damage. Webster's doctors said the concussions during his career damaged his frontal lobe, causing cognitive dysfunction."

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