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Old 02-17-2010, 02:27 PM   #136
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I'm so confused. Part of me thinks that if we find the right QB in the draft we have to take him, but if we fix the O-Line we can turn this around quickly, assuming that Kyle Shanahan can coach up Campbell. Honestly right now I'm torn.
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Old 02-17-2010, 02:27 PM   #137
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Old 02-17-2010, 02:28 PM   #138
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tryfuhl - ive not heard an absolute answer as to whether JC was allowed to call audibles or protection schemes. i thought last year zorn took the protection calls away from rabach and gave them to JC.

im not making a collins is better argument (hes not) but this past season, collins comes in for JC (i think when he injured his ankle). collins lines up, makes a gesture, the TE moves from the right side to the left side, then we false started.

but it clearly showed that qbs in zorns scheme could call protection adjustments, it also showed me something i havent seen all year from a skins qb, our qb making an adjustment based on what he sees when he lines up behind center.

the very next play after the false start? a long ball completed to moss, thrown on time and accurate. collins got popped right after he threw.

uggghhh i feel dirty for even digging up the past JC debates.
That's true, maybe Campbell just didn't call them much.. or maybe they just felt more comfortable letting Collins play as he wished. And yes, Collins looked good on the play, no doubt about that, not taking away anything from him.. or anointing Campbell as our solution, much less savior.

I know Portis said he hasn't seen an audible since Denver and well.. I never see them. That means either both Gibbs and Zorn didn't think that he could handle it or Campbell just neglected to use them. I'd think that if it were the latter Gibbs and Zorn would've corrected that though. Maybe it's just a shared philosophy that their plays should work, who knows?
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That's true, maybe Campbell just didn't call them much.. or maybe they just felt more comfortable letting Collins play as he wished. And yes, Collins looked good on the play, no doubt about that, not taking away anything from him.. or anointing Campbell as our solution, much less savior.
so much for back to the original topic...

Anybody else remember the furor when Zorn said he would pull Sonny if he changed the play (I would mark that as the official beginning of the end for JZ by the way). If a career back up goes in, what's he got to lose (other than his legs behind last years line). Campbell followed Zorn's plays, for better or for worse.
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Old 02-17-2010, 03:00 PM   #140
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EDIT: And if he lost confidence it shows what kind of an leader he is. When all the other QB's get sacked or some one like Mcnabb you never hear him or other say " O we'll it was the team and this and that"- Jason Campbell speech.


Mcnabb and others admit they played bad and end up beastin the next week . Campbell doesn't have confidence in him self he's just a back up at best.
You don't listen to McNabb too often do you?
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Old 02-17-2010, 03:07 PM   #141
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I can't believe you just said that. I know Campbell lovers make excuses but your saying they didn't expect a long play????. Maybe Moss went down field because it was a route in part of a play. Collins went deep because he saw him down field and knew he had "TIME" to do so , he threw it out nice and quickly.


So how come Campbell couldn't go deep on his first plays?. with a 77% COMP rating you would think every team would expect us to do a 10 yarder but if Campbell went deep they surley wouldnt expect it. I mean........wow I'm shocked.
Maybe you need a power drill on your skull to get this inside...can't go deep with 2/3 seconds of protection. :frusty:
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You don't listen to McNabb too often do you?
Only when he says he doesn't know overtime rules and that black quarterbacks have it harder.
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I thought this was a Colt Brennan thread.
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^^^ Apparently any thread is fair game for a good JC dispute.
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I thought this was a Colt Brennan thread.
The thread could be about Pop-Tarts and there would still be JC discussion in it.
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Old 02-17-2010, 03:13 PM   #146
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JC likes the frosted berry ones I heard
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JC likes the frosted berry ones I heard
Typical Campbell
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Old 02-17-2010, 03:19 PM   #148
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JC likes the frosted berry ones I heard
Candle should to stick on learning how to rad defenses bestter and not be talking up which Pop Tarts he likes. Obvusly that's why hes getting sacked so much, couldn't get his mind focusd caus hes slow


(Seriously, it's harder to write in that style!)
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I'm so confused. Part of me thinks that if we find the right QB in the draft we have to take him, but if we fix the O-Line we can turn this around quickly, assuming that Kyle Shanahan can coach up Campbell. Honestly right now I'm torn.
You're essentially right on both accounts. There's only one wrong answer to this offensive puzzle, and that's taking a quarterback at No. 4, and then assuming that their development will take care of the offense while we retool the defense.

Which, admittedly, is the solution many are proposing. Drafting a QB is going to do nothing to fix the OL, as people propose. Clausen has the same ball-holding tendencies that JC does. Bradford has a shoulder that may or may not ever fully heal, and could have an injury riddled career. You have to fix the OL whether or not you draft a QB, and free agency isn't giving you much help.

A problem that no one is talking about is that we might need to use the 2011 draft to help put together the offense that we began rebuilding with a quarterback in 2010. But even though the 2011 draft is definitely happening (per the CBA)...what if we can't sign any of the players we draft because of the strike? Are we really three years away from getting this QB onto the field? If so, why the rush?
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Old 02-17-2010, 03:33 PM   #150
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I'm expecting us to take a QB at #4 who will lead the offense, sack the opposing quarterback, write off my honeymoon as a "team building corporate off-site," select the best movies for me to go see and have a warm Pop Tart ready for me in the morning. Anything less than that and Danny Boy will see my bus patrolling his neighborhood
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