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Old 03-11-2010, 11:03 AM   #301
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I agree! I rather get Okung at 4 and take a chance on McCoy or who ever in the second round. I almost bet Clausen will be there i nthe 2nd if we don't take him #4.
I think there's a good chance Clausen will be there, but i wouldnt bet on it. McCoy will most definitely be there, and perhaps Tebow as well. Honestly, i'm hoping Brennan or Campbell shows enough to Shanahan in camp to make Shanahan feel he doesnt need to use one of our first two picks on a QB.
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Old 03-11-2010, 11:08 AM   #302
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I think at this point the redskins are looking to trade down. After seeing their approach to free agency they will need the additional picks to fill holes on the roster.
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Old 03-11-2010, 11:18 AM   #303
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I think when comparing Levi Jones and Stephon Heyer, you have to take into consideration that Levi joined us late October of last year and it took time to acclimate to the system. That and he really wasn't in football shape. This time around, with a full training camp under his belt and a little more resolve mind you, I think we're going to see a better all around tackle. That's my hope at least.

In an all around head-to-head, you have to account for that and I'd still give the edge to Levi Jones, by the way.
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Old 03-11-2010, 11:29 AM   #304
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I think at this point the redskins are looking to trade down. After seeing their approach to free agency they will need the additional picks to fill holes on the roster.
I agree. the best thing we can do is feign sincere interest in Bradford, McCoy, Suh, Okung, Berry, Clausen, etc. to increase the likelyhood of finding a trading partner. This is a very deep draft and it would benefit us to accumulate as many picks in rounds 1-3 as possible.
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I think when comparing Levi Jones and Stephon Heyer, you have to take into consideration that Levi joined us late October of last year and it took time to acclimate to the system. That and he really wasn't in football shape. This time around, with a full training camp under his belt and a little more resolve mind you, I think we're going to see a better all around tackle. That's my hope at least.

In an all around head-to-head, you have to account for that and I'd still give the edge to Levi Jones, by the way.
we havent resigned him, have we?
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Old 03-11-2010, 11:33 AM   #306
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Levi is still out there - UFA

Thought I heard the Skins offered him a deal but he's looking at his options
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we havent resigned him, have we?
No, he wants more money, and he is in the same kind of situation as last year when Cinci brought in a rookie LT. I don't think he signs here without a) more money, and b) at the very least the promise he gets to compete for the starting LT job, and I really thinks he wants to be promised the starting job, which I doubt happens. Thus, I doubt he ends up in a Skins uniform. At this point, I am ok with that.
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Old 03-11-2010, 11:34 AM   #308
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we could certainly use all the help and competition we could get. I certainly wouldnt feel comfortable penciling him in as a starting RT or anything like that though.
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we could certainly use all the help and competition we could get. I certainly wouldnt feel comfortable penciling him in as a starting RT or anything like that though.
Most definitely; we need to get many bodies as much as we can get, but it won't be worth coaches' times if we try to sign some players who would not be happy playing with the positions that we ask of them to do..
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Against 2009 Heyer, he's a run blocking downgrade and a pass blocking upgrade, which I'd call a slight net gain.

But against 2010 Heyer, there's no easy answer. He's probably a downgrade, especially as a full-time option, but I can't say for sure, because if Heyer has maxed out his ability to block opposing pass rushers at the age of 26, then his run blocking (best on the team, based on the current roster) probably isn't dominant enough to justify a roster spot much longer.

At the point which Levi Jones can no longer handle left tackle, which might have been two years ago, he no longer has value as an NFL player.
Some other factors to remember/consider are that Heyer was hurt for most of the year and he's entering his athletic prime at 27 and could actually be improving.
Its not a big stretch to think that Heyer 2010 will be the best Heyer thus far.
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Old 03-11-2010, 03:17 PM   #311
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LT-Okung
LG-Dockery
C-Rabach
RG-Rinehart/Mike Williams/Edwin Williams
RT-Heyer/Hicks

I view that OL as a vast improvement, thus making it decent, but with the potential to really gel and become a good OL

Without taking a LT @ 4 i'm considerably less enthused (although the OL would still be an improvement from last year, only because of how horrible they were)

LT-Heyer/Hicks
LG-Dockery
C-Rabach
RG-Rinehart/Mike Williams/Edwin Williams
RT-Charles Brown/Saffold/Veldeer?????
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Some other factors to remember/consider are that Heyer was hurt for most of the year and he's entering his athletic prime at 27 and could actually be improving.
Its not a big stretch to think that Heyer 2010 will be the best Heyer thus far.
I would say that this is the expectation.
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Some other factors to remember/consider are that Heyer was hurt for most of the year and he's entering his athletic prime at 27 and could actually be improving.
Its not a big stretch to think that Heyer 2010 will be the best Heyer thus far.
Dude that's rich. I'll eat my words if you're right.
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I think when comparing Levi Jones and Stephon Heyer, you have to take into consideration that Levi joined us late October of last year and it took time to acclimate to the system. That and he really wasn't in football shape. This time around, with a full training camp under his belt and a little more resolve mind you, I think we're going to see a better all around tackle. That's my hope at least.

In an all around head-to-head, you have to account for that and I'd still give the edge to Levi Jones, by the way.
Definitely Jones. Heyer has proven that he is a decent backup and can come in a game in a pinch. At left tackle your QB is toast, at RT you can survive with him if there is a good guard next to him.

Levi has been a starting quality tackle for years.
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Some other factors to remember/consider are that Heyer was hurt for most of the year and he's entering his athletic prime at 27 and could actually be improving.
Its not a big stretch to think that Heyer 2010 will be the best Heyer thus far.

Well if he gets worse he will be lucky to be playing in the CFL.
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