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Old 02-24-2010, 12:01 AM   #61
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Actually Smoot was a second rounder that was playing like a first rounder.
Huh I thought Smoot was a late 1st rounder...like 27th overall or something
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Old 02-24-2010, 12:08 AM   #62
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Huh I thought Smoot was a late 1st rounder...like 27th overall or something
Nah, 45th overall. Come on, member? You member. But seriously he was part of Marty's draft class with Rod 50/50 going in the first. Sage Rosenfels, and Darnarian McCants were also in that class. To add insult to injury in the firing of good old Marty, Antonio Pierce was brought in that year as an undrafted free agent. Guy clearly knew what he was doing talent wise.
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Old 02-24-2010, 12:12 AM   #63
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Nah, 45th overall. Come on, member? You member. But seriously he was part of Marty's draft class with Rod 50/50 going in the first. Sage Rosenfels, and Darnarian McCants were also in that class. To add insult to injury in the firing of good old Marty, Antonio Pierce was brought in that year as an undrafted free agent. Guy clearly knew what he was doing talent wise.
Good history lesson sir...
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we have obvious and more pressing needs at other positions. los has not played great, just doing his job the best he can. tender him for now.

with a new staff (haslett specifically) talking about making changes that should lead to more turnovers, maybe los makes an impact. i am not holding my breath, but hopeful.
Yeah, but turnovers usually involves actually catching the ball if you're a DB...
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if he's starting 64 and not in the top 40 then I'd love to hear your analysis on the ones in the bottom 24

not that you could name them
You're right, I couldn't name them I'm sure but my analysis is they are serviceable CB but lack a certain characteristic (hands, elite speed, loose hips) of elite-outstanding CB, teams will tend to throw to their side more than the other and they are beaten for TD more frequently than their opposite CB. I think we can all agree that Rogers fits comfortably into that criteria.

Look, it's not an insult to call someone a bonafide starter in the NFL, it's just that I consider Rogers on the middle-lower end of starting CB in the league.
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He's a solid CB, but there's always been something going on between he & the staff. We saw this in 06 & in the past 2 years especially. Will a coaching change truly make a difference? I don't know. For now I'll agree w/Matty that he's certainly worth tendering.
I totally agree. There was something he had problems with under G.Williams, now its the staff under Zorn. Some people get all bent out of shape about what they are asked to do and whether they feel they should do it or not. Others are Roll players. We need Roll players. People who will do their job and not complain. I know for the most part Rogers has been a Roll player and perhaps I'm completely wrong about Rogers and when he would get beat but I felt he was a better Man-to-Man cover corner vs. a Zone cover corner. I seemed to think he got beat a lot when he was in a zone scheme. Like he was lost as to who to cover and for how long. Yet he writes he didn't do well in a man-to-man scheme?

He's a good corner. Not sure how many people we can Tendure but I'm in this crowd. I think he values himself more then what he's actually worth though.
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Actually Smoot was a second rounder that was playing like a first rounder.
Plus I think he got majorly coached up by Green. If I recall Smoot had a rough first year then worked all summer with Green and came out gang busters after that.

We should have asked Green if he wanted to be a coach for the Skins.
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Plus I think he got majorly coached up by Green. If I recall Smoot had a rough first year then worked all summer with Green and came out gang busters after that.

We should have asked Green if he wanted to be a coach for the Skins.
I think that we tried but then Green sent the Skins a bill every time that he had to sign a paper
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Plus I think he got majorly coached up by Green. If I recall Smoot had a rough first year then worked all summer with Green and came out gang busters after that.

We should have asked Green if he wanted to be a coach for the Skins.
I don't think Smoot had a rough first year. Maybe in the first part when they went 0-5, but I think by the end of the year he was considered one of the bright spots

I don't have time to watch this as I have a class coming up but if anyone wants to tell me what the rookie verdict on Smoot was then I'd appreciate it.
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Must be like Dennis Rodman and his tattoos...gets one in every city he visits throughout his career.

Soon he'll catch up to Travis Henry's 11 kids to 10 moms (one set of twins threw off the ratio).
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You're right, I couldn't name them I'm sure but my analysis is they are serviceable CB but lack a certain characteristic (hands, elite speed, loose hips) of elite-outstanding CB, teams will tend to throw to their side more than the other and they are beaten for TD more frequently than their opposite CB. I think we can all agree that Rogers fits comfortably into that criteria.

Look, it's not an insult to call someone a bonafide starter in the NFL, it's just that I consider Rogers on the middle-lower end of starting CB in the league.
I'd put him in the top 15-20 CBs probably, he does definitely have plenty of room to improve. Maybe one of the unofficial stats guys can help us out with some numbers.
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I'd put him in the top 15-20 CBs probably, he does definitely have plenty of room to improve. Maybe one of the unofficial stats guys can help us out with some numbers.
That's really high praise for someone that's been benched at some point 2 of the last 3 seasons and has 6 INT in 5 years.

Whose class would you put him in? The Revis-Woodson class? The Samuel-Winfield class? Who would you consider his peers in the 15-20 range?
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That's really high praise for someone that's been benched at some point 2 of the last 3 seasons and has 6 INT in 5 years.

Whose class would you put him in? The Revis-Woodson class? The Samuel-Winfield class? Who would you consider his peers in the 15-20 range?
more like the cromartie-robinson class, which I guess could take him out of the 15-20 range

last year singled out I probably wouldn't put him in top 20, but still starting quality.. before that maybe in the al harris, sheldon brown type range
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I like Rogers when he is allowed to play to his strengths . Rogers was taken to be like a Nate Clements type CB and if anything Rogers is more physical than Clements .

Saying Rogers has always had an issue with every coaching staff no matter who he has worked with is a little disingenuous because it is the same defensive coaching staff under Gibbs and under Zorn and I have to say there seemed to be an awful lot of unhappy campers on the D last year, there was a lack of cohesiveness and a lack of leadership ... I guess that's what happens when Blanche quits on you in week four ..

We should tender him and look to use him in a way that builds to his strengths . To me the lack of catches and ints is not as important for me as the number of catches he prevents . It is not as sexy a statistic but I would love to find somewhere which shows the number of 5+ catch / 100yard games a reciever had ....
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These comments where posted via twitter by 106.7 dafan. Apparently they had a interview with Rogers, who now wants to be on the team. He was upset with the coaching staff and now that they are gone he wants to stay a skin...

1067thefandc Spoke to #Redskins CB C.Rogers via phone:“I definitely want to be here, especially after the coaching change — but it is in their hands” -CR

1067thefandc #Redskins RFA CB C.Rogers: “We never changed. I got beat several times. I'm sorry. That’s what happens when you play man & don’t change"-CR

1067thefandc #Redskins CB C.Rogers: "I am a starter in the league, and a lot of teams wanted to try to trade for me, and they would not let me go.” -CR

1067thefandc #Redskins CB C.Rogers on Landry: “Laron is a good player. They just tell him to do too many different things. So he gets confused a lot."-CR


Should we keep him? what do you think, discuss...
The full interview

Redskins’ Rogers: “I want to be here” « 106.7 The Fan – DC Sportsradio
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