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Old 03-03-2010, 04:23 PM   #166
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Bad for team chemistry? Every team in the NFL is doing the same exact thing?? The players should be pissed at the players union for allowing this to happen. The Redskins are simply doing what they're supposed to be doing.

Saying it will affect the locker room and team chemistry is a bit of a reach...
yeah it may be a stretch but not by much.

rocky is going to be making the same money other depth players will (golston, doughty, heyer, etc) yet he is a starter and has been a starter for years. so rocky has to take 400 more snaps than golston but still gets paid the same next year? after playing 5 years on a rookie contract as a starter no less?

if dansby is signed and rocky has to play next to him, doing the same thing he is but for 5 million less with no guaranteed future, i think it is fair to say he his going to be pissed.

playing 5 years with these guys im going to assume he has made some friends = players whispering about skins FO not paying their players and giving money to FAs.

i just hope rocky's locker isnt next to carlos' whom i believe he will have alot in common with since he will most likely be playing under a cheap tender while his counterpart hall got "shown the money" for a decent 7 game stretch.

in the offseason: "its a business rocky, no body said it was fair."

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Can't blame Rocky for being upset, there are a lot of players upset about being caught between a rock and a hard place right now. A bunch of guys are missing out on potential big pay days. He knows it's the nature of the business though, I don't see him being a long term distraction.

As for Heyer getting tendered I say why not? You can't get rid of everyone overnight with a limited FA pool out there and only 5 draft picks.
I agree 100%, If I'm Rocky I'm upset too.... Not really upset with the Redskins, but at the situation. The Redskins are really making the right move here. They're switching to a 3-4, which from what I understand (i really have no clue how to evaluate) doesnt really match Rocky's strongest skills. However, they cant just let this guy walk either... so I have no problem with The Skins' move here...but I certainly understand why Rocky would be upset. I mean if he blows out a knee or something, he really just lost out on a few million dollars. While Rocky McIntosh still makes a ton of money, he really hasn't had a real good NFL payday... so I understand his side of it completley.
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I agree 100%, If I'm Rocky I'm upset too.... Not really upset with the Redskins, but at the situation. The Redskins are really making the right move here. They're switching to a 3-4, which from what I understand (i really have no clue how to evaluate) doesnt really match Rocky's strongest skills. However, they cant just let this guy walk either... so I have no problem with The Skins' move here...but I certainly understand why Rocky would be upset. I mean if he blows out a knee or something, he really just lost out on a few million dollars. While Rocky McIntosh still makes a ton of money, he really hasn't had a real good NFL payday... so I understand his side of it completley.
I think a lot of players are being screwed by this situation.
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I think situations like Rocky's can be bad for team chemistry. Rocky, who has contributed loyally for several years, really does not see much fruit for his labors. But (presumably) Dansby, who has never contributed anything to the Skins, walks in on day one making three times as much or whatever. As a team we have a history of not always rewarding loyal service.

I think we would be a better team if we rewarded from within more and rewarded outsiders less. Maybe Shanahallen will fix this situation over the long term. For this year, however, we will have such a turnover that such situations are unavoidable.
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I think situations like Rocky's can be bad for team chemistry. Rocky, who has contributed loyally for several years, really does not see much fruit for his labors. But (presumably) Dansby, who has never contributed anything to the Skins, walks in on day one making three times as much or whatever. As a team we have a history of not always rewarding loyal service.

I think we would be a better team if we rewarded from within more and rewarded outsiders less. Maybe Shanahallen will fix this situation over the long term. For this year, however, we will have such a turnover that such situations are unavoidable.
Things like this are happening all throughout the league.
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Things like this are happening all throughout the league.
Yes, that is true. But it seems to me that good teams like the Colts try to minimize such dynamics, where other teams do not.
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Things like this are happening all throughout the league.

Exactly!


I guess every locker room is going to have issues
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Yes, that is true. But it seems to me that good teams like the Colts try to minimize such dynamics, where other teams do not.
I'd love to see your support for this statement.
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Yes, that is true. But it seems to me that good teams like the Colts try to minimize such dynamics, where other teams do not.
How are the Colts doing this?
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Is it not true that the Colts (for just one example) try to build from within? It seems to me that the Colts rarely make big free agent splashes. They draft folks, develop them, and then at least try to pay them for services rendered over time. To be fair, they don't pay everyone and a number of Colts have walked to other teams. But, in general, rather than shopping outside of the organization for free agents, they try to draft people, develop them, and then give them market-value second contracts whenever possible. Such a dynamic rewards player loyalty with organizational loyalty. Is this not true?
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Is it not true that the Colts (for just one example) try to build from within? It seems to me that the Colts rarely make big free agent splashes. They draft folks, develop them, and then at least try to pay them for services rendered over time. To be fair, they don't pay everyone and a number of Colts have walked to other teams. But, in general, rather than shopping outside of the organization for free agents, they try to draft people, develop them, and then give them market-value second contracts whenever possible. Such a dynamic rewards player loyalty with organizational loyalty. Is this not true?
Yes, but you made it sound like the Colts were doing something different now with these new rules due to the upcoming uncapped year. Right now throughout the league a lot of players are getting screwed by these rules that come into effect because of the uncapped year, and I don't think many teams have renegotiated deals, instead they are tendering their players.
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Is it not true that the Colts (for just one example) try to build from within? It seems to me that the Colts rarely make big free agent splashes. They draft folks, develop them, and then at least try to pay them for services rendered over time. To be fair, they don't pay everyone and a number of Colts have walked to other teams. But, in general, rather than shopping outside of the organization for free agents, they try to draft people, develop them, and then give them market-value second contracts whenever possible. Such a dynamic rewards player loyalty with organizational loyalty. Is this not true?
The Colts also have two things that most teams do not have, a good if not very good line and arguably the best Quarterback ever.
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The Colts also have two things that most teams do not have, a good if not very good line and arguably the best Quarterback ever.
Yes, but this has nothing to do with what is going on right now with players getting tendered because of the new rules due to the upcoming uncapped season. Antoine Bethea just got tendered by the Colts.

Speaking of tenders, the Dolphins just gave Ronnie Brown a first round tender:

Sources: Miami Dolphins tender running back Ronnie Brown - ESPN
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Yes, but you made it sound like the Colts were doing something different now with these new rules due to the upcoming uncapped year. Right now throughout the league a lot of players are getting screwed by these rules that come into effect because of the uncapped year, and I don't think many teams have renegotiated deals, instead they are tendering their players.
I'm sorry, it is my bad if I made it sound like the Colts were doing something different with the new rules. I was talking about general organizational philosophies. Sorry.
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I tell ya, Schefter is the guy on tweeter in regards to tenders:

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