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Old 03-02-2010, 09:52 PM   #166
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Does this mean we plan on cutting several big name guys or hoping we can trade them?

Assuming we switch to a 3-4 and Shanahan doesn't like Campbell, i'd love to see:

"Big Name" Signings
  • Karlos Dansby
  • Dunta Robinson
  • Darren Sproels
  • Kevin Walter

"Big Name" Cuts
  • Clinton Portis
  • Randy Thomas
  • Randel El
  • Rock Cartwright
  • Todd Collins
  • Fred Smoot
  • Cornelius Griffin
  • Reynaldo Wynn

Traded*
  • Laron Landry - 3rd and 4th Round Picks
  • Santana Moss - 3rd Round Pick
  • Jason Campbell - 3rd and 4th Round Picks
  • Andre Carter - 4th Round Pick
  • Carlos Rogers - 2nd Round Pick
  • Rocky McIntosh - 4th Round Pick

*I would accept young, promising, zoneblocking offensive linemen in place of draft picks.
Perfecto! I'll be sad to see Griff go but there's really no spot for him in the 3-4. Landry will yield 3rd and 4th round picks when I become a billionaire. My guess is Landry will be shopped but the offers will be paltry. Word of all this will get out and Landry will show up even later and less prepared than last season, further deflating his value. Shanny/Allen won't put up w/ Landry's bullsh*t and he'll be traded for peanuts or cut.

...or he could make the surprise leap into adulthood in the next few weeks and realize he needs to get a lot better and cut the showboat crap.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:37 PM   #167
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Peppers is a 30 yr old DE. We have the exact same guy in Carter, and a young pass rusher in Orakpo why mess w/ that? It's not that Peppers is declining or a "bad fit" it's that he's not a major need this offseason. There's an arguement that you can't have enough pass rushers but JP, Orakpo, and Carter are pro bowl players and do the same thing. In a 3-4 Carter's the odd man out. Instead of throwing a fat check at Peppers go after lesser deals like Rolle, Robinson, Pashos, Sproles, and the Center from Denver.

With all due respect, you are crazy if you think Andre Carter is anywhere near the player that Julius Peppers is.

Carter has never made the Pro-Bowl. Peppers is a 5 time pro-bowler and 2 time all pro.
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With all due respect, you are crazy if you think Andre Carter is anywhere near the player that Julius Peppers is.

Carter has never made the Pro-Bowl. Peppers is a 5 time pro-bowler and 2 time all pro.
London Fletcher is a one time pro bowl alternate. Michael Vick is a 2 or 3 time pro bowler. Honestly pro bowl selections are overrated.
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With all due respect, you are crazy if you think Andre Carter is anywhere near the player that Julius Peppers is.

Carter has never made the Pro-Bowl. Peppers is a 5 time pro-bowler and 2 time all pro.
I was just about to say the same thing. I don't really understand why people think that EVERY free agent is all of the sudden a bum and no better than average players when we are (allegedly) considering them.
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Coming off a 12 sack season, Carter's gotta be worth something.
carolina could be interested.
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:11 AM   #171
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Why go for Peppers in the first place? Priority one is rebuild the O line. We should be talking about FA O linemen. There are so many D linemen studs in the draft that we should just draft one. Forget Peppers. I mean pay a shitload of dough for a guy that isn't going to be around all that long and might not produce as expected? Get a young rook that has something to prove to get that big resigning in 4 years.
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id rather draft OL than sign over the hill FA OL.
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London Fletcher is a one time pro bowl alternate. Michael Vick is a 2 or 3 time pro bowler. Honestly pro bowl selections are overrated.
lol snap. He just killed that argument haha

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Why go for Peppers in the first place? Priority one is rebuild the O line. We should be talking about FA O linemen. There are so many D linemen studs in the draft that we should just draft one. Forget Peppers. I mean pay a shitload of dough for a guy that isn't going to be around all that long and might not produce as expected? Get a young rook that has something to prove to get that big resigning in 4 years.
Just because we need to rebuild our Oline doesnt mean we cant sign ppl to play other positions lol. Im against signing Peppers however i AM NOT against signing anybody on defense cuz of how bad our Oline is. We have alot of problem areas we need to fill. The more we do that in FA the better prepared we will be for a good draft
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Alexander "slimmed down" to about 275 last year to play DE, so he wouldn't have much to lose to fit into the LB mold.
I've always been a fan of those who are rarely decorated, will do what it takes to deliver results
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Peppers’ representatives met with Bears over weekend
Posted: March 2nd, 2010 | Adam Rank | Tags: Aaron Kampman, Chicago Bears, Julius Peppers, Philadelphia Eagles

Representatives for defensive end Julius Peppers met with the Bears over the weekend, according to a report from Chicago Breaking Sports News.

NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora reported last week that the Bears are expected to make a huge push to sign Peppers. But it will cost a lot. Peppers was seeking $40 million in guaranteed money from the Panthers. La Canfora also reports that the Bears could be targeting Packers free-agent Aaron Kampman if Peppers falls through.

The Eagles are also reportedly targeting Peppers.


I really don't see us signing him.
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Peppers’ representatives met with Bears over weekend
Posted: March 2nd, 2010 | Adam Rank | Tags: Aaron Kampman, Chicago Bears, Julius Peppers, Philadelphia Eagles

Representatives for defensive end Julius Peppers met with the Bears over the weekend, according to a report from Chicago Breaking Sports News.

NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora reported last week that the Bears are expected to make a huge push to sign Peppers. But it will cost a lot. Peppers was seeking $40 million in guaranteed money from the Panthers. La Canfora also reports that the Bears could be targeting Packers free-agent Aaron Kampman if Peppers falls through.

The Eagles are also reportedly targeting Peppers.


I really don't see us signing him.
The Bears save us again! I so don't want this guy.
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He makes more sense for the Bears, but let's be honest, if the Skins want him, they will get him. It's not going to be about some team "saving" the Skins from themselves, whatever that really means.
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London Fletcher is a one time pro bowl alternate. Michael Vick is a 2 or 3 time pro bowler. Honestly pro bowl selections are overrated.
That is because for a few years Michael Vick was a better player than Fletcher.

Vick was a legitimate MVP candidate.
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If by chance he did come here, the talk of moving him to an outside linebacker position is insane IMO . First I can't imagine him playing in space, or being on the plus side of thirty embracing a new and totally diferent position.

There's talk of moving other players to unfamaliar positions with the idea in mind of utilizing the 3-4 as the base defense, some of these concepts have me scratching my head.
Peppers has been wanting to go to a 3-4 for the last couple of years. He wants to be able to stand and rush the QB. However, he hates dropping in coverage. So he has a problem with just about any D you put him in, unless you allow him to stand and rush 100% of the time. Peppers is VERY VERY athletic and if he gave 100% on the field and off the field he would be one of the best OLB in the league. However, Peppers just doesn't have the motivation to play 100% all the time.
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if we end up going 3-4, i think we'll do everything we can to trade Carter.

Carter has experience in the 3-4, played pretty decent in it at San Fran. I am not sure how he would be used in the 3-4 here, as an OLB or DE, but I think he would be productive. Again however, Orakpo is the focus of the D and he has to be the guy applying the pressure mostly, so I am leary of using Carter on the OLB position as he would be beaten unmercifully in coverage. I think we have a lot of questions about this D and little answers right now.
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