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Old 03-07-2010, 06:43 PM   #61
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I agree with your posts in this thread; Bushrod could even barely handle Freeney (with the foot injury) in the Super Bowl game.. I would prefer to spend the 2nd pick on Charles Brown or whoever else is available..
There will be value in the second round if we're looking at acquiring another lineman at that spot. Allen won't be long on trading away draft choices when we could get value where we are and wouldn't have to surrender a draft pick for another teams player. The days of trading away draft pick could be history.
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:48 PM   #62
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Elite-tier starting LTs can be had for 1st round picks or more. Anything less and you are NOT getting enough bang for the buck at one of the most important positions on the offense.

If there isn't one, I'd take a gamble on the finding the next Jon Jansen or equivalent starter.
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Old 03-07-2010, 06:50 PM   #63
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There will be value in the second round if we're looking at acquiring another lineman at that spot. Allen won't be long on trading away draft choices when we could get value where we are and wouldn't have to surrender a draft pick for another teams player. The days of trading away draft pick could be history.
Yeah, but what if we could get a left tackle with a second round tender draft choice in 2011, and a right tackle with our current draft choice.
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Any player with less than a first round tender, or at left tackle, less than a first and third round tender, isn't really highly regarded by their team, or by the league. So essentially, you'd be paying a second round pick for what amounts to a scouting find.
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Old 03-07-2010, 07:07 PM   #65
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Yeah, but what if we could get a left tackle with a second round tender draft choice in 2011, and a right tackle with our current draft choice.
So much about 2011 is still uncertain yet, and a 2nd round tender for Bushrod would not be conditional unless a deal was consumated to that effect. Anything less than an arranged agreement would require a 2nd rounder in the 2010 draft. If it's linemen we'll be lookinfg for in 2011 there may be a better player than Bushrod available to us at that time. I've just never been one in favor of trading away draft picks, they're the closest thing to gold in today's NFL.
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So much about 2011 is still uncertain yet, and a 2nd round tender for Bushrod would not be conditional unless a deal was consumated to that effect. Anything less than an arranged agreement would require a 2nd rounder in the 2010 draft. If it's linemen we'll be lookinfg for in 2011 there may be a better player than Bushrod available to us at that time. I've just never been one in favor of trading away draft picks, they're the closest thing to gold in today's NFL.
That is not the way I understand it. It would be a 2011 pick, if we took one of those guys, after the draft.

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That is not the way I understand it. It would be a 2011 pick, if we took one of those guys, after the draft.
This In Accordance To The Rules Of The Collective Bargaining Agreement:

Reference: Compensation RFA Tenders

A restricted free agent can negotiate with any club through a certain date. If the RFA accepts an offer sheet from a new club, his old club has a "right of first refusal"...a seven day period in which it may match the offer and retain him, or choose not to match the offer in which case it may recieve one or more draft picks "from the upcoming draft" from the players new club. If an offer sheet is not executed the players rights revert back to his old club the day after negotiations must end.

That does not mean that a deal cannot be consumated requiring any combination of players in exchange, but such deal must be worked out in advance between the two parties.
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Would we be able to sign him AFTER the draft, and give the Saints our Second Rounder in 2011? I wonder how that would work at that point, does anyone know?

I mean we might not be great next year, but I don't know that we'd have the #4/#36 picks in the 2011 draft... and I dont think we should give up anymore picks seeing as we don't have a third rounder (Which I was OK with the Jarmon thing, so no big deal)...but having just a 1st...then late picks would not be good for a rebuilding team like us...
No; RFA's period ends before the draft to avoid this.
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Matty is right, it is almost the same with Qbs in this draft, linemen are rather plentiful on both sides of the ball.
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No; RFA's period ends before the draft to avoid this.
That's correct, the deadline for signing tendered RFA's is April 15th.
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That's correct, the deadline for signing tendered RFA's is April 15th.
Well if that is the case they are not worth it.
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That's correct, the deadline for signing tendered RFA's is April 15th.
I think that I heard on NFLN that last year not a single RFA was picked up, wouldn't be surprised if it happened again.
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