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Old 03-03-2010, 10:20 PM   #16
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I think, minus the int's, Carlos is a very good corner, but he is not the sharpest from watching Redskin Nation interviews. He is just responding from a basic instinct, and will deal with it once it is clearer to him.
This is typical Carlos.
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Old 03-03-2010, 10:24 PM   #17
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The 1st round tender is just a starting point for negotiations correct? If offered a 2nd rd pick for Los I bet the FO takes it...
A 1st is the jump off point but a deal is negotionable. If he keeps stirring the pot the FO may be willing to accept a 2nd for him. With a deep draft like this one I'd take a 2nd for him just to get rid of his mouth.
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Old 03-03-2010, 10:32 PM   #18
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I think, minus the int's, Carlos is a very good corner, but he is not the sharpest from watching Redskin Nation interviews. He is just responding from a basic instinct, and will deal with it once it is clearer to him.
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This is typical Carlos.
Yes, his basic instinct of dropping the ball when it counts.
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Old 03-03-2010, 10:34 PM   #19
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Yes, his basic instinct of dropping the ball when it counts.
That's pretty good...
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Old 03-03-2010, 10:44 PM   #20
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People on this board are way too rough on 'los. I don't agree with what he's saying, of course the skins tendered you. That's how this business runs. You're going to get a decent contract, just play for it. Personally, I think we should extend him a reasonable contract now after a down year. Carlos plays great coverage sure, he got burned a few times. Find me a CB that doesn't. It's part of the game. His hands are bad, he drops picks. I wish he made them, but he's not a WR, if he's shutting down a receiver -- he's doing his job.

I'm curious what fan sentiment would be like on players from the 80s if they had ways to quickly contact millions of fans (Facebook, twitter, 24 hour media, etc etc). These guys are just reacting. No time to think about what they're saying. That doesn't make saying stupid things "right" -- but I understand how certain mentalities can go over the top sometimes.

Also, those of you willing to take a 2nd round pick for a young and relatively talented corner. Think long and hard about who we have on this team to replace him. Smoot as a starter? Draft a complete gamble of a player in the 2nd round? People often over-value draft picks. I'm shocked at how many people are willing to toss away a proven commodity for a 2nd round crap shoot. Let's look at our 2nd rounders over the past 10 years.
Rocky McIntosh, Taylor Jacobs, Ladell Betts, Fred Smoot. Not a terrible list, but not a great one.
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Plays like a 3rd rounder, talks like a Hall of Famer. I hope someone else is stupid enough to sign him to a tender and he goes. I wish they would have tendered him at a 2nd round level so a team would have been more likely to sign him..
I am not sure anyone understands why he is pissed off. He was not tendered as a high level first round draft choice from what I understand. He was given the lowest possible tender, that gives you the original draft pick that the player was drafted at. They could have done the same for Campbell, but elected to show him some respect and give him a high level tender. I may be wrong, but this is how I understand it. If this is the case, you can see why he is upset. Upset to the tune off at least a couple million dollars.
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I am not sure anyone understands why he is pissed off. He was not tendered as a high level first round draft choice from what I understand. He was given the lowest possible tender, that gives you the original draft pick that the player was drafted at. They could have done the same for Campbell, but elected to show him some respect and give him a high level tender. I may be wrong, but this is how I understand it. If this is the case, you can see why he is upset. Upset to the tune off at least a couple million dollars.
Excellent point, well stated.

If there's a conclusion to be drawn here, it's that Campbell could be in the teams plans past 2010, but Rogers almost certainly is not.
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I am not sure anyone understands why he is pissed off. He was not tendered as a high level first round draft choice from what I understand. He was given the lowest possible tender, that gives you the original draft pick that the player was drafted at. They could have done the same for Campbell, but elected to show him some respect and give him a high level tender. I may be wrong, but this is how I understand it. If this is the case, you can see why he is upset. Upset to the tune off at least a couple million dollars.
Actually they gave Campbell the second highest tender. Campbell could have gotten tendered as a first and third however he is now tendered as just a first round pick.
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Actually they gave Campbell the second highest tender. Campbell could have gotten tendered as a first and third however he is now tendered as just a first round pick.
But the point is that it was a different strategy used than with Rogers. In one case, the team was willing to spend a little bit more money to show that, yes, we value your contribution to the team, now prove you deserve to play here beyond this year. In the other, it's essentially just leveraging the fact that they control Rogers' rights, making a trade more enticing to a team that only has to pay his salary for one year at $1+ million, and basically suggesting that he's gone after this year.

Saves them nearly two million in uncapped dollars, which is the positive part.
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But the point is that it was a different strategy used than with Rogers. In one case, the team was willing to spend a little bit more money to show that, yes, we value your contribution to the team, now prove you deserve to play here beyond this year. In the other, it's essentially just leveraging the fact that they control Rogers' rights, making a trade more enticing to a team that only has to pay his salary for one year at $1+ million, and basically suggesting that he's gone after this year.

Saves them nearly two million in uncapped dollars, which is the positive part.
Curious if you think anyone will yield a 2nd rounder for Los? How about a 3rd rounder?...and would our FO let him go for that?
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Actually they gave Campbell the second highest tender. Campbell could have gotten tendered as a first and third however he is now tendered as just a first round pick.
Well no one would have given us a second for him, so giving him a high level tender was more than fair since they could have given him a low level tender and still would require a first to get him.
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Poor Carlos rogers, he gets burned, beat, cooked, and now tendered. Oh wait this isn't about how bad he is at coverages.
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Well no one would have given us a second for him, so giving him a high level tender was more than fair since they could have given him a low level tender and still would require a first to get him.
Are you talking about Campbell or Rogers? Because let's not forget that things are different this offseason. Very limited talent out there that is not RFA, so teams may be willing to pay up a little bit more than last season.
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Are you talking about Campbell or Rogers? Because let's not forget that things are different this offseason. Very limited talent out there that is not RFA, so teams may be willing to pay up a little bit more than last season.
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Well as I said, last offseason and this offseason are night and day due to the uncapped year restrictions, so things will be different as far as trades and what not.
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