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Old 03-12-2010, 10:46 AM   #61
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Keep Carter...little trade value for a solid starting DE...before him we were desperate for a DE for what...like 10 yrs....this is one of Vinny's better pickups...don't mess with a good thing....(why the hell are we going to a 3-4 anyways? we dont have the right personnel...lets change the offensive...they are the ones that suck)
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:13 AM   #62
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Keep Carter...little trade value for a solid starting DE...before him we were desperate for a DE for what...like 10 yrs....this is one of Vinny's better pickups...don't mess with a good thing....(why the hell are we going to a 3-4 anyways? we dont have the right personnel...lets change the offensive...they are the ones that suck)
Your saying keep him but at the same time saying he does not fit the new defense? I don't want him lining up at OLB next year and it's not worth a roster spot to have guy that we can only bring in a couple times a game to rush the QB. We are better off with a late round pick for the guy.

This draft is deep at a lot of positions including RB...Shanny could land a starting RB with a 5th round pick. If we keep Carter at all then it's only for another year probably so why not get a potential building block for him now?
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:14 AM   #63
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We can never have enough good players, Carter is a good player we should make every attempt to keep. Hard to believe there's not a place on the team for a player of his caliber.
Well, there are other factors. Such as do we have potentially a younger version in Jarmon (or someone else)? Does Carter want to be here? Can we get good value and improve upon our 4-12 record by using him as leverage while he still has value instead of waiting too long?
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:16 AM   #64
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Didn't a lot of people say this very thing about Big Mike Williams?
Not because he doesn't have potential, because he does. He's not durable, that's all. It's not his shoulders that bug me so much, he's been playing on a bum ankle since his Nebraska days and I'm not convinced that it's much better, if at all, at this stage in his career.
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:23 AM   #65
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if haslett beleives that carriker could start here and play well, then i'd trade carter to the rams (assuming they wanted him and he was willing to go there) straight up. I'd even throw in a 7th round pick if I had to, but thats about as far as i'd go. Carter is on the wrong side of 30 and coming off the best year in his career. he doesn't fit in our new defense and its an uncapped year. if there's ever going to be a time to move him, its now.
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if haslett beleives that carriker could start here and play well, then i'd trade carter to the rams (assuming they wanted him and he was willing to go there) straight up. I'd even throw in a 7th round pick if I had to, but thats about as far as i'd go. Carter is on the wrong side of 30 and coming off the best year in his career. he doesn't fit in our new defense and its an uncapped year. if there's ever going to be a time to move him, its now.
Exactly my thoughts. Carter doesn't have a spot in the 3-4 and he's aging, so we really should get what we can for him now. It's always better to trade player a year too early than a year too late. I would be happy to get Carriker for Carter straight up. There's significant injury risk, so have the team doctors evaluate him. He's built ideally for a 3-4 DE and at 25 could be a starter for years to come. The potential reward outweighs the risk IMO.
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Exactly my thoughts. Carter doesn't have a spot in the 3-4 and he's aging, so we really should get what we can for him now. It's always better to trade player a year too early than a year too late. I would be happy to get Carriker for Carter straight up. There's significant injury risk, so have the team doctors evaluate him. He's built ideally for a 3-4 DE and at 25 could be a starter for years to come. The potential reward outweighs the risk IMO.
Call me crazy, but I think a guy like Carter could be beneficial for the Rams. I believe their d-line is very young, so a veteran coming off a great season would help them.
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if haslett beleives that carriker could start here and play well, then i'd trade carter to the rams (assuming they wanted him and he was willing to go there) straight up. I'd even throw in a 7th round pick if I had to, but thats about as far as i'd go. Carter is on the wrong side of 30 and coming off the best year in his career. he doesn't fit in our new defense and its an uncapped year. if there's ever going to be a time to move him, its now.
Agreed.
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Old 03-12-2010, 01:59 PM   #69
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Just saw Carter has a no-trade clause in his contract, so he has to approve going anywhere. I dont know too many people that would want to go to St. Louis...... Unless the money was right or the other option is you get cut and you dont think you could get your salary anywhere else in FA.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d816e4d17&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true


Also a little off topic, does anyone know any of the other Redskins with no-trade clauses in their contracts?

I saw a Gibbs interview and he was talking about when he came to the team and was trying to get Riggens back and finally convinced him all the while planning to trade him as soon as he could. Then Riggens made one stipulation in coming back. A no-trade clause. It was hilarious to watch Gibbs and Riggens tell that story.
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Re: JLC: Redskins Interested in Adam Carriker

Heres a thought, and just pure speculation. Maybe its a draft strategy.

It could be possible that the Redskins are just trying to discern whether or not the Rams take Bradford or Suh with that first pick.

They could be dangling a carrot, feigning interest in Carriker. If the Rams open serious discussions, it could be a strong indication that St Louis intends to select Suh with the first pick.

If they show no interests in trade discussions, it cold indicate that they will take Bradford.

Total speculation on my part, but it is an interesting way to get the other guy to "show his hand".

That way the Redskins draft strategy in the first round could be worked on.
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Just saw Carter has a no-trade clause in his contract
Oh Yeah...Excellent Point...makes me happy because I'd rather keep him than some crappy low round draft pick
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Heres a thought, and just pure speculation. Maybe its a draft strategy.

It could be possible that the Redskins are just trying to discern whether or not the Rams take Bradford or Suh with that first pick.

They could be dangling a carrot, feigning interest in Carriker. If the Rams open serious discussions, it could be a strong indication that St Louis intends to select Suh with the first pick.

If they show no interests in trade discussions, it cold indicate that they will take Bradford.

Total speculation on my part, but it is an interesting way to get the other guy to "show his hand".

That way the Redskins draft strategy in the first round could be worked on.
I think you're pretty on point in your assessment
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Old 03-12-2010, 02:29 PM   #73
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I don't think we should be looking at a Carter trade and a Carriker trade as necessarily being one and the same. Though I believe Carter is more likely to go than Carriker is to arrive. Pure speculation though

Could have sworn he had waived that no trade clause, guess I was wrong.
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Just saw Carter has a no-trade clause in his contract, so he has to approve going anywhere. I dont know too many people that would want to go to St. Louis...... Unless the money was right or the other option is you get cut and you dont think you could get your salary anywhere else in FA.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d816e4d17&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true


Also a little off topic, does anyone know any of the other Redskins with no-trade clauses in their contracts?

I saw a Gibbs interview and he was talking about when he came to the team and was trying to get Riggens back and finally convinced him all the while planning to trade him as soon as he could. Then Riggens made one stipulation in coming back. A no-trade clause. It was hilarious to watch Gibbs and Riggens tell that story.
I agree... I don't see Andre accepting a trade w/ the Rams... especially with the possibility of the Redskins releasing him, allowing him to be a free agent.
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Heres a thought, and just pure speculation. Maybe its a draft strategy.

It could be possible that the Redskins are just trying to discern whether or not the Rams take Bradford or Suh with that first pick.

They could be dangling a carrot, feigning interest in Carriker. If the Rams open serious discussions, it could be a strong indication that St Louis intends to select Suh with the first pick.

If they show no interests in trade discussions, it cold indicate that they will take Bradford.

Total speculation on my part, but it is an interesting way to get the other guy to "show his hand".

That way the Redskins draft strategy in the first round could be worked on.
The thought is devilishly devious but it's not really a very useful thing for the Redskins to do. That's because the Skins pick 4th and there are really only five players who might be in play for picks number one through three. They are Bradford, Suh, McCoy, Okung, Berry, and Clausen. So, the Skins aren't going to have much difficulty in looking at the possibilities and devising a strategy for each scenario. And they'll also have their draft board as a tool.

But, if the Skins have a legitimate interest in Carriker and can trade for him, that might have the added benefit of influencing St Louis to lean more toward drafting one of the DT's.
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