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Old 03-17-2010, 12:34 PM   #91
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He's the example we need to remember now. What happens when you ignore the O-line and get the big name QB? He gets sacked 70 times a year and never recovers.
So they should have taken Mike Williams in 2002?
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BigHairedAristocrat, why did you choose that name? Big Haired Aristocrat = immoral, corrupt, worthless, cowardly, and lazy.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:35 PM   #93
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Thats one. Name me another. Rivers MIGHT qualify. (Still trying to figure out just who WAS the #1 pick in THAT draft!).

I bet we can easily name more #1 overall selected QB's that tanked or busted than we can name more "Peyton Mannings".

My point was simply it is a HUGE gamble taking ANY QB #1 overall. If the gamble works, great, the GM is a hero.

But more times than not, that #1 pick as a QB will not live up to what is expected of him.
I have not disagreed with your point in bold above. I have simply indicated that it is limited. Taking a QB at #1 is both high risk and high reward. However, you have simply highlighted the "risk" part. You have been ignoring the "reward" part.
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Wouldn't surprise me either if Grossman doesn't make the final roster...but then I also wouldn't be surprised if he's the opening day starter.
OMG. I spent so much time laughing at the Bears for starting Grossman. Now I might have to laugh at us.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:38 PM   #95
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New Blood here,


O-Line first and last. Grossman is a good move, experience and not an old man.

Gotta get the LT filled then JC or Rex can have an easier time of it. I don't see Colt here much longer.

I am so glad Vinnie is gone.
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I have not disagreed with your point in bold above. I have simply indicated that it is limited. Taking a QB at #1 is both high risk and high reward. However, you have simply highlighted the "risk" part. You have been ignoring the "reward" part.
That does seem to be happening a lot lately.
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So they should have taken Mike Williams in 2002?
So the Jets shouldn't have taken Ferguson? We can go back and forth all day citing failures and successes.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:50 PM   #98
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So the Jets shouldn't have taken Ferguson? We can go back and forth all day citing failures and successes.
So the Raiders should have taken Gallery over Rivers
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New Blood here,


O-Line first and last. Grossman is a good move, experience and not an old man.

Gotta get the LT filled then JC or Rex can have an easier time of it. I don't see Colt here much longer.

I am so glad Vinnie is gone.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:51 PM   #100
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So the Jets shouldn't have taken Ferguson? We can go back and forth all day citing failures and successes.
That's a bad example for a couple of reasons.

Primarily, there was no comparable quarterback ranked that high. You don't reach.
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So the Jets shouldn't have taken Ferguson? We can go back and forth all day citing failures and successes.
QB is a far higher risk, that's the point.

There are also a lot more examples of highly-drafted QBs failing than succeeding, that decision has a bad track record.
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^ And, if you are right, a much higher reward.
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That's a bad example for a couple of reasons.

Primarily, there was no comparable quarterback ranked that high. You don't reach.
Actually I would say that Leinart was a better prospect. We'll see if he develops this year but in that draft you could have easily gone for Leinart.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:57 PM   #104
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^ And, if you are right, a much higher reward.
Of course, but that's a gigantic IF.

As I said, Bradford does not seem like a sure thing, I don't think we should risk it, especially with more pressing needs...mainly O-Line.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:59 PM   #105
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Actually I would say that Leinart was a better prospect. We'll see if he develops this year but in that draft you could have easily gone for Leinart.
The thing is, Matt Leinart fell quite a bit, and according to Bill Polian, there are little to no surprises in the first round of the NFL draft, only to "analysts" and "fans" who know a lot less.
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