Joey Porter arrested in California

The Goat · 03-28-2010, 11:27 PM

I don't think it matters where you live, rich/poor, rural/urban cops way more often than not are undereducated egomaniacs who do piss poor police work even if they're not actually crooked. One of the criminology professors I had in college was a retired officer. He put about 20 years in the Bay area then became a PD consultant of sorts traveling throughout the U.S. and later the world. He was very honest, told us several stories from his career where he admitted to screwing up royally, including a time he let a serial murderer get away by mistake.

But the most notable thing that guy ever told us is the best thing that can ever happen to a police dept and the community it serves is lots and lots of legal action. It was actually pretty shocking to hear this but basically he reasoned that police work is just sloppy and stupid unless scrutinized. He talked about all the law suits against the LA PD as a good example.

In another class we had a ACLU lawyer in as a guest speaker. He had fought police corruption his entire career, told us about a lot of his cases and the bullshit that goes on within law enforcement. I think that was the only time I ever considered a law degree...sometimes wish I had done it.

GMScud · 03-28-2010, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tryfuhl

When were you in Gainesville? I'm sure that I frequented your establishment if it's the one that I'm thinking of.

Gainesville, FL, not VA. I went to University of Florida.

tryfuhl · 03-28-2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Gainesville, FL, not VA. I went to University of Florida.

ohh yeah

Mattyk · 03-29-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

What was Porter doing to get the cops attention in the first place? I have to wonder what would bring on a confrontation with a cop in a fastfood parking lot. Porter must have done something to bring attention to himself. As far as cops go, there is way too much leniency given to bad cops. Someone who carries a gun and a nightstick should be held to higher standards. And they should be enforced.

I would guess he was just being himself, which means he was probably running his trap.

mredskins · 03-29-2010, 10:17 AM

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There's only one way to combat that problem...and it is a prevalent one, and that is to Record IT! The only things cops respond to is disciplinary action and you will never get a judge or police commissioner to side with a citizen without clear evidence. Everytime you see a cop doing something out of line, pull out the cell phone and start shooting.

In my opinion, there are many good police officers, but just as many boneheaded bullies who signed up to be a cop because they wanted the power to bully people and be "in control". Keep the departments on their toes and eventually, the disciplinary system will weed out the bad apples. It is a thousand times better today than in the 70s and 80s where most major metro police departments were as crooked as the criminals they were busting.

Porter, (and others) should realize that you just can't back-talk or ignore an order from a cop (good or bad one), and expect them to blow it off. They will come after you. Sounds like Porter didn't feel like "subordinating" himself to an authority figure and got a night on a cold piece of concrete because of it.

Agreed we all have a little police of the police in our pockets now a days. Use the video function on your cell phone if you see abuse happening near you. Then report it with the video.

Monkeydad · 03-29-2010, 11:13 AM

Assaulting an officer? Goodbye Joey. We won't see you for a while.

over the mountain · 03-29-2010, 11:45 AM

i thought joey porter was a passenger in a car that was pulled over outside a taco bell. when you get pulled over after midnight and the cops smell alcohol, everyone gets asked for id and to step out of the car.

slapping the hand of an officer is assault, especially if it is done after you have failed to comply with an officer's request.

another point, our FO did offer him a contract, so they did want him on our team.

SmootSmack · 03-29-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by over the mountain

i thought joey porter was a passenger in a car that was pulled over outside a taco bell. when you get pulled over after midnight and the cops smell alcohol, everyone gets asked for id and to step out of the car.

slapping the hand of an officer is assault, especially if it is done after you have failed to comply with an officer's request.

another point, our FO did offer him a contract, so they did want him on our team.

Porter and his buddy were leaving a bar or something like that, in separate cars. His buddy was pulled over for alleged drunk driving, Porter pulled up right behind the cop car to see what was going on and that's when the cop smelled alcohol on Porter's breath.

And contract talks is not necessarily the same thing as offering a contract

over the mountain · 03-29-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Porter and his buddy were leaving a bar or something like that, in separate cars. His buddy was pulled over for alleged drunk driving, Porter pulled up right behind the cop car to see what was going on and that's when the cop smelled alcohol on Porter's breath.

And contract talks is not necessarily the same thing as offering a contract

ok cool. i read that joey was a passenger in a car pulled over.

i thought we offered joey a contract, he called AZ and they met or beat our offer. so we didnt offer him a k?

53Fan · 03-29-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Porter and his buddy were leaving a bar or something like that, in separate cars. His buddy was pulled over for alleged drunk driving, Porter pulled up right behind the cop car to see what was going on and that's when the cop smelled alcohol on Porter's breath.

And contract talks is not necessarily the same thing as offering a contract

Dumb.

SmootSmack · 03-29-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by over the mountain

ok cool. i read that joey was a passenger in a car pulled over.

i thought we offered joey a contract, he called AZ and they met or beat our offer. so we didnt offer him a k?

I know that Simms guy (can't remember his first name) from SF was offered a contract. Best I can recall, Porter and the Redskins spoke about a contract, but it was obvious from the get go all he wanted was to play for the Cardinals. I don't think there was serious interest on either side really.

BigHairedAristocrat · 03-29-2010, 12:40 PM

i understand that there are some bad cops out there, but that doesn't mean that ALL of them are. regardless, it doesnt give anyone the right to disobey a police officer. if a cop has a power trip, then why on earth would you act in such a way to disrespect him? thats just asking for trouble. if a cop tells you to get out of the car, you do it. if you physically assault a police officer in any way (whether its slapping a hand or spitting on him or anything more severe), then 1) you're an idiot and 2) you're lucky if you dont get the crap beat out of you.

tryfuhl · 03-29-2010, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I know that Simms guy (can't remember his first name) from SF was offered a contract. Best I can recall, Porter and the Redskins spoke about a contract, but it was obvious from the get go all he wanted was to play for the Cardinals. I don't think there was serious interest on either side really.

barry sims

SmootSmack · 03-30-2010, 04:55 PM

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tryfuhl · 03-31-2010, 12:06 AM

He's lucky he didn't get beaten by a gang of cops the way most of that shit turns out.

03-28-2010, 11:27 PM	#31
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,044	Re: Joey Porter arrested in California I don't think it matters where you live, rich/poor, rural/urban cops way more often than not are undereducated egomaniacs who do piss poor police work even if they're not actually crooked. One of the criminology professors I had in college was a retired officer. He put about 20 years in the Bay area then became a PD consultant of sorts traveling throughout the U.S. and later the world. He was very honest, told us several stories from his career where he admitted to screwing up royally, including a time he let a serial murderer get away by mistake. But the most notable thing that guy ever told us is the best thing that can ever happen to a police dept and the community it serves is lots and lots of legal action. It was actually pretty shocking to hear this but basically he reasoned that police work is just sloppy and stupid unless scrutinized. He talked about all the law suits against the LA PD as a good example. In another class we had a ACLU lawyer in as a guest speaker. He had fought police corruption his entire career, told us about a lot of his cases and the bullshit that goes on within law enforcement. I think that was the only time I ever considered a law degree...sometimes wish I had done it. __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes he eats you.

03-29-2010, 11:13 AM	#36
Monkeydad Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 34 Posts: 14,885	Re: Joey Porter arrested in California Assaulting an officer? Goodbye Joey. We won't see you for a while. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

03-29-2010, 11:45 AM	#37
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: baltimore Posts: 2,690	Re: Joey Porter arrested in California i thought joey porter was a passenger in a car that was pulled over outside a taco bell. when you get pulled over after midnight and the cops smell alcohol, everyone gets asked for id and to step out of the car. slapping the hand of an officer is assault, especially if it is done after you have failed to comply with an officer's request. another point, our FO did offer him a contract, so they did want him on our team. __________________ Fails to lock onto the defender, at times, preferring to violently shove his target to the ground and look for others.

03-29-2010, 12:40 PM	#42
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,813	Re: Joey Porter arrested in California i understand that there are some bad cops out there, but that doesn't mean that ALL of them are. regardless, it doesnt give anyone the right to disobey a police officer. if a cop has a power trip, then why on earth would you act in such a way to disrespect him? thats just asking for trouble. if a cop tells you to get out of the car, you do it. if you physically assault a police officer in any way (whether its slapping a hand or spitting on him or anything more severe), then 1) you're an idiot and 2) you're lucky if you dont get the crap beat out of you. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

03-30-2010, 04:55 PM	#44
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,222	Re: Joey Porter arrested in California CHP Investigates NFL Brutality Allegation \| TMZ.com __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-31-2010, 12:06 AM	#45
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 29 Posts: 12,512	Re: Joey Porter arrested in California He's lucky he didn't get beaten by a gang of cops the way most of that shit turns out.

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