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View Poll Results: Donovan McNabb is now a Redskin, do you approve?
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:50 AM   #751
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How many people who voted that they didn't want McNabb here in Washington are now voting that they approve of the trade. 57 to 25 not wanting him here and yet now 20 - 6 approve this trade. I don't get what changed from Friday's poll to this morning's other than the trade actually took place.
lol yeah it's odd to me too

Like you said, the only thing that changed is the trade actually happened. Perhaps people have had a chance to think about it and when reality sets in they realized it's a good move.

How you can go from JC to McNabb and not like it is beyond me.
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:51 AM   #752
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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;682838]How can you say this? I didn't see any drop off in his play last year. 14 games 22 td's and 10 ints. Year before he put the team on his back and almost got them to the SB. This guy can still get it done. Plus they're going to give him a running game, somthing he's NEVER had in Philly. Philly's loss our gain. This could really come back and bite Philly in the ass.[/QUOTE]

I hope and pray your correct. Everytime I try to point out a good move people throw stats in my face. All I'm pointing out is we have a QB with similar stats on the roster right now that everyone is trying to get rid of. I'd prefer we got younger. Lastly we back to the win now attitude.

I'll give you a point though. Shanahan did well with a 34 y/o Elway and went to the SB when people thought he was washed up. Again I hope and pray your right and Shanahan can work his magic with McNabb.
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I didnt say anything about Westbrook. Who is BYRON?

We gave up a 2nd rounder and a possible 4th next year. Yes its worth it.

A contract will be worked out. We are not giving up a pick next year if there isn't a chance of signing a longer contract.
Byron is Brian's brother and a reserve db on our team. A running joke every year is that Byron was on the team to give us a shadow of the Eagles offense.
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I'll still go back and say if you have a franchise QB worth their weight in gold you don't trade them. You trade your second string QB for other players needed or draft picks. Instead it speaks volumes that they traded McNabb (a franchise QB) and are going to start a QB that has played 2 games. Either McNabb pissed off the team somehow (which I doubt happened) or the Eagles are going with youth (which worries me). The latter is what I'd like to see the Skins do but instead we picked up McNabb.

He's definitly a HOF for what he has done, but I just don't think the Eagles would give up a franchise QB if he was still a franchise QB or to a division rival.
Well they drafted Kolb for a reason and they have a lot of faith in him. They weren't going to give McNabb another contract with a talented 25 year old sitting on the bench. It's a lot like the Packers situation when they traded away Favre in order to finally get Rodgers on the field. They felt it was time to move forward and I think the Eagles felt the same way here.
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How many people who voted that they didn't want McNabb here in Washington are now voting that they approve of the trade. 57 to 25 not wanting him here and yet now 20 - 6 approve this trade. I don't get what changed from Friday's poll to this morning's other than the trade actually took place.
I responded to you earlier with this, but it got lost in the frenzy:

I suspect that many who were against McNabb at the outset have no choice but to accept what's happened because we're Redskins fans and Donovan McNabb is now a Redskin.

We have to deal with less picks in the draft than just about every team every single year. I'm sick of that, and it's not something I expected with Shanahan and Allen. Clearly, they aren't following the 'rebuild and suck it up for a year or two' rule. They are all in to win right now.

I don't like the draft situation, but I'm betting they'll do all they can to trade down and pick up more as they go along.
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Comparing these two is a joke, I mean really.

Donovan McNabb: Career Stats

Jason Campbell: Career Stats

We shouldn't even be talking about these 2 in the same sentence. One guy is one of the top guys in the league, the other guy we can't even give away at this point.

Stats aside, anyone who tries to say that JC is in the same ballpark as McNabb is simply kidding themselves.
McNabb's career stats won't mean shit if THE SKINS don't go deep into the playoffs! To answer the the question, 'What have you done for me lately?', neither one of these QBs have done much for THE SKINS, therefore they are one of the same. McNabb is a future HOF... as a Eagle.
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lol yeah it's odd to me too

Like you said, the only thing that changed is the trade actually happened. Perhaps people have had a chance to think about it and when reality sets in they realized it's a good move.

How you can go from JC to McNabb and not like it is beyond me.
I'll agree with you mentally he's alot better then JC. He's less mobile then JC right now though. Pick your poison.

Lastly, Why did JC put up similar numbers if he's not a good, not as smart, worse OL, bad HC, and a very bad scheme? All I'm saying is take the whole picture in and look at it. Don't simply look at the fact that McNabb will be a HOF. McNabb was a franchise with the Eagles. McNabb used to be mobile. McNabb put up numbers.... but with better situation not that much better then JC for being 10 times better. I just feel we are getting rooked again. We just got snookered by Andy Reid. Jason Taylor ring a bell? I just hope after this year McNabb does not go back to the Eagles.
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At least McNabb has been there, done that. JC hasn't even been able to lead a team to the playoffs yet. Not saying that's totally his fault because it's not. But with Shanahan and McNabb, you have to feel much better about that vs. Zorn and Campbell.
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Well they drafted Kolb for a reason and they have a lot of faith in him. They weren't going to give McNabb another contract with a talented 25 year old sitting on the bench. It's a lot like the Packers situation when they traded away Favre in order to finally get Rodgers on the field. They felt it was time to move forward and I think the Eagles felt the same way here.

So would you rather have Kolb or McNabb as your opening day starter with the Redskins?
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I'll agree with you mentally he's alot better then JC. He's less mobile then JC right now though. Pick your poison.

Lastly, Why did JC put up similar numbers if he's not a good, not as smart, worse OL, bad HC, and a very bad scheme? All I'm saying is take the whole picture in and look at it. Don't simply look at the fact that McNabb will be a HOF. McNabb was a franchise with the Eagles. McNabb used to be mobile. McNabb put up numbers.... but with better situation not that much better then JC for being 10 times better. I just feel we are getting rooked again. We just got snookered by Andy Reid. Jason Taylor ring a bell? I just hope after this year McNabb does not go back to the Eagles.
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Ok,

So I have nearly vented the bad taste of this trade out. Now it's on to what else are you going to do. We still need 2 Tackles, plus depth. We have one pick in the first 2 days. As Bruce Allen said, the offseason doesn't end until Pre-season starts, so I will try to hope that there are plans to fill those gaps with quality players. If they can, then great, but this trade in isolation smells more like OldSkins than a new beginning.
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I'll agree with you mentally he's alot better then JC. He's less mobile then JC right now though. Pick your poison.

Lastly, Why did JC put up similar numbers if he's not a good, not as smart, worse OL, bad HC, and a very bad scheme? All I'm saying is take the whole picture in and look at it. Don't simply look at the fact that McNabb will be a HOF. McNabb was a franchise with the Eagles. McNabb used to be mobile. McNabb put up numbers.... but with better situation not that much better then JC for being 10 times better. I just feel we are getting rooked again. We just got snookered by Andy Reid. Jason Taylor ring a bell? I just hope after this year McNabb does not go back to the Eagles.
Last year JC played 16 games, DM played 14. So if you projected out DM's numbers to 16 games we're talking about him throwing for 4060 yards and 25 TDs. The numbers aren't so comparable then.

DM's QB rating was also much higher.
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So would you rather have Kolb or McNabb as your opening day starter with the Redskins?
I guess I'd prefer Kolb. LOL. Young, healthy, and would be starting for years to come in order to build and grow into the scheme we are planning to use.
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I'll agree with you mentally he's alot better then JC. He's less mobile then JC right now though. Pick your poison.

Lastly, Why did JC put up similar numbers if he's not a good, not as smart, worse OL, bad HC, and a very bad scheme? All I'm saying is take the whole picture in and look at it. Don't simply look at the fact that McNabb will be a HOF. McNabb was a franchise with the Eagles. McNabb used to be mobile. McNabb put up numbers.... but with better situation not that much better then JC for being 10 times better. I just feel we are getting rooked again. We just got snookered by Andy Reid. Jason Taylor ring a bell? I just hope after this year McNabb does not go back to the Eagles.
I think JC is what he is. Simply an average servicable QB that needs everything around him to be working well in order to be successful. McNabb doesn't need that. Plus Jason Taylor was not in the prime of his career and we asked him to play out of position...and QB is a much more important position than DE.
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So would you rather have Kolb or McNabb as your opening day starter with the Redskins?
That's a good question. I haven't seen as much of Kolb as I have McNabb, and if we're basing this on what we know (career resumes) I would have to take McNabb.
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