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Old 04-05-2010, 09:25 AM   #766
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Yeah the comparison to Jason Taylor doesn't make much sense. Two completely different situations.
If we only get one good year out of McNabb, the comparison will be richer.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:27 AM   #767
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Mike and Mike said that we offered up Haynesworth for McNabb. Did any one here of this?
Bad idea there. He may have been less productive last year, but IMO every player and team gets 2 years to adjust to new players before being labeled a bust.
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Mike and Mike said that we offered up Haynesworth for McNabb. Did any one here of this?
Yep, it's true. Too much money for any team to take on though.
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I'm argueing that McNabb's not in his prime either. After two injury plagued yrs he's not the same QB.
the injuries are a concern. that would be my only concern though.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:30 AM   #770
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huh?
I'm sorry, Delhomme. Better? now that I spelled it correctly. He was released by the Panthers, been to a couple SB's, is just as old, would not have had to give up a draft pick. Does he ring a bell now? We should have picked him up if we wanted a better QB then JC.
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Mike and Mike said that we offered up Haynesworth for McNabb. Did any one here of this?
The Peter King article says this too.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:31 AM   #772
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I think this is a dumb move. Quarterback is not the issue with this team. Offensive line is. Campbell didn't have time to make any throws last year and our running backs got less then four yards a carry. Its pathetic! Our Offensive line is one of the worst in the league and we get a quarterback? Freakin dumb! Just dumb! This draft class is one of the deepest I've seen for lineman and yet we trade away one of those draft picks for an old man? Its dumb!

Allen, Shanahan, and Haslett have blown up this team. They switch from a 4-3 defense to a 3-4 and cut everybody that they could think of. And then get an old man for a quarterback? You only do that if you're team is pretty well set. You only do that if your defense is practically there, if your offensive line is practically there, you have a pretty good receiving corps and some pretty good running backs. Then adding an old salty veteran quarterback is a good thing. Then he'll get you over the hump and get you into the playoffs. Then he'll make your team better. But, now? We don't have any talent to beat anybody!!! Why in the heck would we do this now? Its stupid. We're rebuilding and We traded away two picks which we could use to build our team for an old guy that is not going to do much better ................................I need a beer!

One thing is for sure though. Danny still runs this team. Not the business side, but the players side. He still runs it. And Vinny does too!

This deal just reaks of Danny and Vinny working together........................I need to get drunk!
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And dont forget that he got hurt before he was really able to get going.
Well don't count your chickens before they hatch. McNabb has been injured in the past and all we need is a preseason injury and we have an exact replica of Jason Taylor.
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I'm sorry, Delhomme. Better? now that I spelled it correctly. He was released by the Panthers, been to a couple SB's, is just as old, would not have had to give up a draft pick. Does he ring a bell now? We should have picked him up if we wanted a better QB then JC.
Ok I'm still saying huh... did you see Delhomme the last year and a half? The guy is toast. He threw 18 INTs last year. Would you take him over McNabb??

Even JC is far superior to Delhomme.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:33 AM   #775
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A true comparison of JC and the CURRENT form of DM is not a collection of all McNabb ever did, but a question of what they did with what they worked with. Can McNabb do better with what Campbell had?

Jason's best receiver, Santana. NcNabb's? DeSean Jackson
Advantage to McNabb. His best receiver is younger, faster, and constantly broke away for 40+ yard gains.

#2 and 3 receivers. Jason had Randel el and two revolving knuckleheads who took turns TRYING to step up. Donovan had Jeremy Maclin and Avant.
Advantage McNabb. Those two guys stepped up whenever needed and made plays.

Celek has more yards and touchdowns than Davis and Cooley combined, but Davis dropped a few that Cooley may have taken to the house. i would say that Cooley and Celek are on the same level if Cooley doesn't have to block all the time and can be used in the passing game. We'll call this a tie.

O-Line... Obviously advantage McNabb. Though not the best at run blocking, they pass blocked with the best of them.

HB!? without Portis, Advantage McNabb. People feared Westbrook and planned a whole week around him. Nobody plans for Betts, ha ha ha! (I'm so glad he's gone)

Coaching staff... bwa ha ha ha ha!!! I wonder who gets the advantage there!?! Zorn... really? HA! The man was a worse coach than he was a quarterback, and that is saying a lot since i think 70 or 80% of his seasons he didn't throw more TDs than INTs. Loser. His playcalling was abysmal and his locker presense was about as strong as that of a back-up kicker. Hip Hip Hooray my @$$.

Offense... McNabb was in a system that he had been in for over a decade. It's a version of the west coast that he's used to get to 5 championships... FIVE!!! Jason was using a crappy version that was easily figured out by opposing defenses and was NOT geared toward him or his existing receiving corps. They didn't even utilize the TE fully until Cooley was hurt. And THAT was mainly Jason saying "Screw these guys, i'd rather watch Fred Davis catch a short one than see Kelly drop a long one.
Advantage McNabb

Now with as good of a tight end, a better coach, better receiving core with a younger and faster star receiver, better pass blocking, better running back, in a familiar/better offense with a better coaching staff... How much better did Donovan do?

Not much.

So, if he was here, how many hits could he have taken? Would he have been around for the saints game? He sucked against them with his better team, but no, Todd Collins probably wouldn've played because McNabb would've been injured again. take a look at how many full seasons he's played in the last few years.

Honestly, How much better did Donovan do in his far better situation than Jason? They almost did the SAME!?!?!
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Well don't count your chickens before they hatch. McNabb has been injured in the past and all we need is a preseason injury and we have an exact replica of Jason Taylor.
True but any player can get hurt at any time.
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Philly is just cleaning house...McNabb, Westbrook, Sheldon Brown, Darren Howard, Shawn Andrews former Redskin Clemons. Times are changing up there.
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Yes we offered AH. It was mentioned half way through last nights discussions. Probably around page 20 somewere.
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Old 04-05-2010, 09:36 AM   #779
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At least Donovan will pull the trigger, JC is a little bitch when it coes to throwing the ball downfield.


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I think this is a dumb move. Quarterback is not the issue with this team. Offensive line is. Campbell didn't have time to make any throws last year and our running backs got less then four yards a carry. Its pathetic! Our Offensive line is one of the worst in the league and we get a quarterback? Freakin dumb! Just dumb! This draft class is one of the deepest I've seen for lineman and yet we trade away one of those draft picks for an old man? Its dumb!

Allen, Shanahan, and Haslett have blown up this team. They switch from a 4-3 defense to a 3-4 and cut everybody that they could think of. And then get an old man for a quarterback? You only do that if you're team is pretty well set. You only do that if your defense is practically there, if your offensive line is practically there, you have a pretty good receiving corps and some pretty good running backs. Then adding an old salty veteran quarterback is a good thing. Then he'll get you over the hump and get you into the playoffs. Then he'll make your team better. But, now? We don't have any talent to beat anybody!!! Why in the heck would we do this now? Its stupid. We're rebuilding and We traded away two picks which we could use to build our team for an old guy that is not going to do much better ................................I need a beer!

One thing is for sure though. Danny still runs this team. Not the business side, but the players side. He still runs it. And Vinny does too!

This deal just reaks of Danny and Vinny working together........................I need to get drunk!
heaven forbid a new regime makes some drastic changes to a squad that went 4-12 in the previous year.

and the notion that danny is still working with vinny is a double
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