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Old 04-05-2010, 06:27 PM   #196
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Ok, so about T+20 hours. I still don't like it, but reports are that the Skins/McNabb are working to get an extension. Campbell should be traded for an "acceptable" pick. So, without switching to a "Yes" I will say if the following things occur, I will feel MUCH better:

A) DM signs a 4-5 year deal for "reasonable" money, 4-5 is simply so we aren't playing around with him anymore. Should be set in a way that after year 3 he is easily cuttable.

B) JC is traded for at least a 3rd in this year's draft.

C) We win a SB
Still mulling this whole trade over. Not a big fan - too much for an older player when we are more than one player, even a top 10 QB, from a SB.

With that said:

A) Agreed. Please, please - Can we avoid Jason Taylor redux?

B) Good luck with that. If we get a 4th I would be amazed. Everyone knows we just want to dump him.

C) Yes that would be sweet. DM throwing the winning touchdown. As an added bonus, an apoplectic Eagles fan base would implode from frustration.
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:28 PM   #197
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Finally, I can look forward to Madden 2011.
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Still mulling this whole trade over. Not a big fan - too much for an older player when we are more than one player, even a top 10 QB, from a SB.

With that said:

A) Agreed. Please, please - Can we avoid Jason Taylor redux?

B) Good luck with that. If we get a 4th I would be amazed. Everyone knows we just want to dump him.

C) Yes that would be sweet. DM throwing the winning touchdown. As an added bonus, an apoplectic Eagles fan base would implode from frustration.
That would make it all worth it to me.
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So you're the jerk that Vinny was listening to? Seems to me you've been getting your way for the past . . . . ten years!
No if Vinny were listening to me he would of been out to get McNabb years ago :P

I'm just saying I find it odd that our lines so horrible yet a backup qb can get behind it and not get sacked till the playoffs
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No if Vinny were listening to me he would of been out to get McNabb years ago :P

I'm just saying I find it odd that our lines so horrible yet a backup qb can get behind it and not get sacked till the playoffs
Yeah in 2007. And that line wasn't stellar either. It's 2010. Last year's line stank.
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Yeah in 2007. And that line wasn't stellar either. It's 2010. Last year's line stank.
We don't even know what the draft target is now though...what can we get for deep sixing J.C.?!?!? Or Colt

But really you don't wanna draft a rookie linemen
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Decline or not, Donovan McNabb is the best quarterback the Redskins have had in decades.
I was hoping that we would get "the best QB in decades" but have him be young, so we have him for a long time.

That hope squashed, I still take solace that we are better at QB than we've been in decades, as you indicate.
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We don't even know what the draft target is now though...what can we get for deep sixing J.C.?!?!? Or Colt

But really you don't wanna draft a rookie linemen
Samuals was a rookie lineman. If my memory serves me he started right away?

Buges is gone man. That whole, "I don't trust rookie lineman" didn't exactly pan out for us too well. Just ask Campbell, Brunell, and Ramsey. Ask them how that turf tastes in Landover.
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Is McNabb the 2004 version, absolutely not. Is he still a top 10 QB, absolutely. The article mentioned the Eagles are in a youth movement, Kolb is young. McNabb's numbers are strong and he's a major upgrade from Campbell. There is no statistical indication McNabb's peerformance will decline in the near term (2-3 years).
#1- I am no fan of JC and have lobbied for us to draft a QB, but statistically JC's numbers are not far off from McNabb's. So you are correct we are not getting the McNabb of 2004, we are getting McNabb of 2009 with the same numbers as JC (minus 2 games) in a better situation then JC. So please don't mention he's statistically better cause he's not. Go look.
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I really don't know were i stand with this trade yet but,
1. DM works out in the off season,
2. DM never took painkillers Favre did & if he didn't he probably wouldn't be here now
3. Favre is still playing & DM takes better care of himself.
4. DM is a good roll out QB.
5. DM has the ablility to make his WR's better.

I'm a JC supporter & i'm sad to see him go (more than likely.)
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#1- I am no fan of JC and have lobbied for us to draft a QB, but statistically JC's numbers are not far off from McNabb's. So you are correct we are not getting the McNabb of 2004, we are getting McNabb of 2009 with the same numbers as JC (minus 2 games) in a better situation then JC. So please don't mention he's statistically better cause he's not. Go look.
Thanks SBXVII. That is what bothers me. That and the fact that we're giving up a pick at #37 for an older QB who may not do that much, if any, better than the QB we have. We would have improved with the RB situation, the draft, new coaching and improved line play anyway. Now we're out a young player at #37 and a pick next year for someone I wasn't that impressed with to begin with. Hopefully he plays lights out this year. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Samuals was a rookie lineman. If my memory serves me he started right away?

Buges is gone man. That whole, "I don't trust rookie lineman" didn't exactly pan out for us too well. Just ask Campbell, Brunell, and Ramsey. Ask them how that turf tastes in Landover.
I don't remember I think we had some guy named Tre Johnson for a year before Samuels got the start.
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D.C. Sports Bog - Theismann: McNabb "the last piece of the puzzle"

Glad to see him back to his old optimistic self.
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Some guy from CSNPhilly.Com just said he thinks this trade will give McNabb a jump start but the Skins still have alot of holes to fill that can't be filled only by the draft. He also said Philly liked Kolb's quick release and they felt McNabb sometimes held on to the ball too long and didn't get to some of his reads which cost them some games. Just relaying the thoughts of a sportscaster from Philly.
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I was hoping that we would get "the best QB in decades" but have him be young, so we have him for a long time.

That hope squashed, I still take solace that we are better at QB than we've been in decades, as you indicate.
I agree, but a second rounder and a likely third rounder really isn't too bad of a deal for a proven quarterback. In fact, it almost seems cheap.

3rd for Mark Brunell was pretty bad because he was already well into his decline shown through his poor play and eventual benching in Jacksonville.

I believe we traded a 1st and 2nd and 3rd rounder for Brad Johnson in 1999.

We used a 1st and 3rd and 4th for Jason Campbell.

Matt Cassel cost a 2nd rounder and who knows how good he actually is.

It almost seems like McNabb came at a bargain.
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