McNabb a Redskin! (Part II)

RedskinsfaninBaltimore · 04-05-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

This is the way I see the trade....

Campbell + Zorn < McNabb + Shanahan

Agreed

JoeRedskin · 04-05-2010, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Ok, so about T+20 hours. I still don't like it, but reports are that the Skins/McNabb are working to get an extension. Campbell should be traded for an "acceptable" pick. So, without switching to a "Yes" I will say if the following things occur, I will feel MUCH better:

A) DM signs a 4-5 year deal for "reasonable" money, 4-5 is simply so we aren't playing around with him anymore. Should be set in a way that after year 3 he is easily cuttable.

B) JC is traded for at least a 3rd in this year's draft.

C) We win a SB

Still mulling this whole trade over. Not a big fan - too much for an older player when we are more than one player, even a top 10 QB, from a SB.

With that said:

A) Agreed. Please, please - Can we avoid Jason Taylor redux?

B) Good luck with that. If we get a 4th I would be amazed. Everyone knows we just want to dump him.

C) Yes that would be sweet. DM throwing the winning touchdown. As an added bonus, an apoplectic Eagles fan base would implode from frustration.

RedskinsfaninBaltimore · 04-05-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Finally, I can look forward to Madden 2011.

I'm already updating my roster

Trample the Elderly · 04-05-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Still mulling this whole trade over. Not a big fan - too much for an older player when we are more than one player, even a top 10 QB, from a SB.

With that said:

A) Agreed. Please, please - Can we avoid Jason Taylor redux?

B) Good luck with that. If we get a 4th I would be amazed. Everyone knows we just want to dump him.

C) Yes that would be sweet. DM throwing the winning touchdown. As an added bonus, an apoplectic Eagles fan base would implode from frustration.

That would make it all worth it to me.

pg86 · 04-05-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

So you're the jerk that Vinny was listening to? Seems to me you've been getting your way for the past . . . . ten years!

No if Vinny were listening to me he would of been out to get McNabb years ago :P

I'm just saying I find it odd that our lines so horrible yet a backup qb can get behind it and not get sacked till the playoffs

Trample the Elderly · 04-05-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pg86

No if Vinny were listening to me he would of been out to get McNabb years ago :P

I'm just saying I find it odd that our lines so horrible yet a backup qb can get behind it and not get sacked till the playoffs

Yeah in 2007. And that line wasn't stellar either. It's 2010. Last year's line stank.

pg86 · 04-05-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Yeah in 2007. And that line wasn't stellar either. It's 2010. Last year's line stank.

We don't even know what the draft target is now though...what can we get for deep sixing J.C.?!?!? Or Colt

But really you don't wanna draft a rookie linemen

Lotus · 04-05-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Audi

Decline or not, Donovan McNabb is the best quarterback the Redskins have had in decades.

I was hoping that we would get "the best QB in decades" but have him be young, so we have him for a long time.

That hope squashed, I still take solace that we are better at QB than we've been in decades, as you indicate.

Trample the Elderly · 04-05-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pg86

We don't even know what the draft target is now though...what can we get for deep sixing J.C.?!?!? Or Colt

But really you don't wanna draft a rookie linemen

Samuals was a rookie lineman. If my memory serves me he started right away?

Buges is gone man. That whole, "I don't trust rookie lineman" didn't exactly pan out for us too well. Just ask Campbell, Brunell, and Ramsey. Ask them how that turf tastes in Landover.

SBXVII · 04-05-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Is McNabb the 2004 version, absolutely not. Is he still a top 10 QB, absolutely. The article mentioned the Eagles are in a youth movement, Kolb is young. McNabb's numbers are strong and he's a major upgrade from Campbell. There is no statistical indication McNabb's peerformance will decline in the near term (2-3 years).

#1- I am no fan of JC and have lobbied for us to draft a QB, but statistically JC's numbers are not far off from McNabb's. So you are correct we are not getting the McNabb of 2004, we are getting McNabb of 2009 with the same numbers as JC (minus 2 games) in a better situation then JC. So please don't mention he's statistically better cause he's not. Go look.

NYCskinfan82 · 04-05-2010, 07:06 PM

I really don't know were i stand with this trade yet but,
1. DM works out in the off season,
2. DM never took painkillers Favre did & if he didn't he probably wouldn't be here now
3. Favre is still playing & DM takes better care of himself.
4. DM is a good roll out QB.
5. DM has the ablility to make his WR's better.

I'm a JC supporter & i'm sad to see him go (more than likely.)

53Fan · 04-05-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

#1- I am no fan of JC and have lobbied for us to draft a QB, but statistically JC's numbers are not far off from McNabb's. So you are correct we are not getting the McNabb of 2004, we are getting McNabb of 2009 with the same numbers as JC (minus 2 games) in a better situation then JC. So please don't mention he's statistically better cause he's not. Go look.

Thanks SBXVII. That is what bothers me. That and the fact that we're giving up a pick at #37 for an older QB who may not do that much, if any, better than the QB we have. We would have improved with the RB situation, the draft, new coaching and improved line play anyway. Now we're out a young player at #37 and a pick next year for someone I wasn't that impressed with to begin with. Hopefully he plays lights out this year. I'll believe it when I see it.

pg86 · 04-05-2010, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Samuals was a rookie lineman. If my memory serves me he started right away?

Buges is gone man. That whole, "I don't trust rookie lineman" didn't exactly pan out for us too well. Just ask Campbell, Brunell, and Ramsey. Ask them how that turf tastes in Landover.

I don't remember I think we had some guy named Tre Johnson for a year before Samuels got the start.

SirClintonPortis · 04-05-2010, 07:15 PM

D.C. Sports Bog - Theismann: McNabb "the last piece of the puzzle"
Glad to see him back to his old optimistic self.

53Fan · 04-05-2010, 07:24 PM

Some guy from CSNPhilly.Com just said he thinks this trade will give McNabb a jump start but the Skins still have alot of holes to fill that can't be filled only by the draft. He also said Philly liked Kolb's quick release and they felt McNabb sometimes held on to the ball too long and didn't get to some of his reads which cost them some games. Just relaying the thoughts of a sportscaster from Philly.

04-05-2010, 07:06 PM	#206
NYCskinfan82 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Age: 43 Posts: 2,983	Re: McNabb a Redskin! (Part II) I really don't know were i stand with this trade yet but, 1. DM works out in the off season, 2. DM never took painkillers Favre did & if he didn't he probably wouldn't be here now 3. Favre is still playing & DM takes better care of himself. 4. DM is a good roll out QB. 5. DM has the ablility to make his WR's better. I'm a JC supporter & i'm sad to see him go (more than likely.)

04-05-2010, 07:15 PM	#209
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: McNabb a Redskin! (Part II) D.C. Sports Bog - Theismann: McNabb "the last piece of the puzzle" Glad to see him back to his old optimistic self. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

04-05-2010, 07:24 PM	#210
53Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,360	Re: McNabb a Redskin! (Part II) Some guy from CSNPhilly.Com just said he thinks this trade will give McNabb a jump start but the Skins still have alot of holes to fill that can't be filled only by the draft. He also said Philly liked Kolb's quick release and they felt McNabb sometimes held on to the ball too long and didn't get to some of his reads which cost them some games. Just relaying the thoughts of a sportscaster from Philly. __________________ "Cautiously And Optimistically... Looking Forward To Change"

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