McNabb a Redskin! (Part II)

BigHairedAristocrat

youre not considering what could have been done with the 2nd round pick. How about this? Wait until the 37th pick is made in the draft and let us know if that player (or any player still available at that point) is better than McNabb.

At MOST, you could say there's a chance that a player available at that point could contribute more to the team over the next 3-4 years than McNabb. But not a single player available at that point - at any position - would be clearly better than McNabb.

Yes, McNabb is not the long-term answer at QB. But the fact is, using a top draft pick on a quarterback would be the worst possible thing this team could do right now. Right now, if we drafted a QB, it would be by a coaching staff and GM in their first 4 months on the job. the scouts evaluating QB prospects are vinny cerrato holdovers awaiting unemployment.

Finding a franchise QB in the NFL draft is one of (if not the) hardest things to do in all of professional sports. By trading for McNabb, we've bought ourselves a couple of years to find him. When we do, the task will be handled by a GM, head coach, and scouting department who have all been working together for at least one or two full seasons.

And when we fiinally find that franchise QB, he'll be learning the ropes from a future Hall-of-Fame quarterback and not Jason Campbell or Rex Grossman.

Unless McNabb really has absolutely nothing left in the tank, I simply don't understand how anyone can think the Skins made a bad move.

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GTripp0012

Well, no, you just made an ad-hoc attack to misrepresent what I predicted at the time to try to build a case that I don't know what I'm talking about here, EVEN THOUGH, my record gives me great credibility, no matter how good I thought Brady Quinn could be coming out of Notre Dame (update: quite good, not Manning good, he was not No. 1 on my board that year).

And once the argument leaves the point where you're debating the facts, it's clear you'd rather I be wrong than you be right.

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GTripp0012

Fair enough, excellent way to frame it, BHA.

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Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

Dirtbag59

It's just that you talked about it so generally. Like a cop going through a crime scene and speculating what he thinks happened.

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Audi

No, that's not what I was doing at all.

I brought up your previous predictions to contrast to this following declaration you made:

"Again, you're not getting a prediction from me whether or not he will crash in 2010 or not."

I do see that you have a problem with following the conversation and sticking to the point, though.

mlmpetert

It definitely has that Brunell smell to it.

They know that we have finished at the bottom of our division for about 10 years straight, and thats not likely to change much this year or next. They also probably had no intentions of resigning him after this year and thought that the Redskins could be likely suitors for him next year especially if we kept Campbell around this year. So yeah they send a their pretty good qb to us, but we are the worst team in the division so how bad could it be. So in exchange for a guy that was going to be cut in a year they get a very high second (immediate contributor) and probably a third next year.

Also for people that were against the Gaither potential trade for the simple fact that we can sign him in FA next year you shouldnt be for this trade. It’s the same thing, except a little more costly pick-wise.

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GTripp0012

Burden of proof is on you, dude. It's your claim that Reid's offense was so unbalanced that it make McNabb's job difficult, not mine. As a hypothesis, I think it's legit, but you might as well put "I think" before it because I don't have to agree with every distant assumption you make, just like you don't have to agree with the way I use completion percentage and sack rate to show value.

In the absence of personal expertise on what makes the Shanahan offense click, your entire argument is valueless. You critique me for appealing to my own expertise, but I'm very forthright in where I'm deriving my opinions. You just write stuff seemingly to make me read it.

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Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

GTripp0012

That's three things cleverly disguised as two!

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Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

GTripp0012

Considering that I'm having 5 different conversations in the same thread, you'll have to forgive me for such fallibility.

You're still not getting a single-year prediction from me, just an obvious observation regarding the evidence that disproves that there are no signs of decline for McNabb. No idea why this reluctance to predict something I don't have a great read on caused you to bring up some wide range of things I predicted.

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GTripp0012

I lol'ed.

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Mattyk

Funny how a year ago it seemed like Cutler was going to be a Redskin and rumors were out there about McNabb ending up in Chicago.

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Beemnseven

Now that it's done, I'm 90% in favor. But the one thing that's been on my mind is pick #37 this year. In the long run, wouldn't it have been better to take the two best offensive tackles in the 1st and 2nd knowing how horrific the line was last year?

Doesn't matter anymore though.

Audi

That's the point. You were reluctant to make a prediction, when that's all you seem to do.

By the way, please stop claiming things are so "obvious" or trying to assert opinions as fact. It doesn't work, unless you have a credible record, which you don't.