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Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

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Old 04-08-2010, 04:39 PM   #46
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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

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I honestly thought he was working out with his trainer until I looked him up in twitter, wow if this is him what a immature douche bag!
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Old 04-08-2010, 04:40 PM   #47
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The frustrating thing is, why get a guy like AH who is a natural Pro Bowl DT and ask him to play NT? It seems extremely self destructive to me. If in fact it is true.
exactly

I mean the guy may play it some.. and I'm no D-Coord.. but it doesn't seem ideal
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:09 PM   #48
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I just find it strange how you guys will piggyback any negative AH report but when there was something about JC, a guy who HASN'T proven himself in the league, so many jump to his defense.
If thats true then it's because JC is much better human being. I alluded to this before but if JC even had a hint of being a premadonna he would have been out of here as early as 2007. I think part of the reason he's been around so long and had so much support is aside from moments of brilliance he has shown really strong character. The nicest thing I can say about Haynesworth is that he's actually pretty articulate. You wouldn't expect that from a guy who the field you can compare to a gorilla. I mean he's no Alan Page, but he comes across well semantically speaking in interviews and the like.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:15 PM   #49
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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

whatever the case is, we definitely have the pieces of the puzzle to put together a great defense. If the coaching staff can't make this group work, then they can't make any group work. We have all the talent in the world, and also plenty of veteran leadership. And on D, we aren't too old either...............

We shall see.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:15 PM   #50
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Haynesworth seems like an alright guy to me

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Old 04-08-2010, 06:16 PM   #51
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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

Cutler was more talented than Plummer.

Nobody is more talented than Haynesworth.

Shanahan directs offense. Plummer was his QB. Haynesworth playes defense.

Thats the difference here.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:17 AM   #52
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Cutler was more talented than Plummer.

Nobody is more talented than Haynesworth.

Shanahan directs offense. Plummer was his QB. Haynesworth playes defense.

Thats the difference here.
Quite true, but Shanahan clearly wants total commitment from everyone. If Albert starts a trend where other team "stars" think that they don't need to be present either, then we're probably better off without him.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:54 AM   #53
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Agree. If the guy comes in shape ready to play lights out and you dump him because he declined a "voluntary" camp, then at the end of the day we got a tougher HC and a weaker football team.
Wiser words...

We can surmise all we want, but truly none of us know the gist of conversations between Al and the coaches/FO.

All I can really say is IF Albert has committed in word and deed to be the very best he can be this season (recognizing that likely means he'll train away from Redskins Park during involuntary) than Shanny/Allen will be very stupid and very culpable for looking to trade him. A committed Haynesworth is nearly priceless.

...I do worry Shanny has an ego so large his judgment can suffer. On the other hand I think his football intelligence is elite and if the good judgment is there he can lead us, or any team, to elite status.
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I think Shanahan and Allen are intent on completely changing the culture that was here the past two years, and I think they feel if they have to push it to an extreme to get the message across so be it.
Do you know if Shannahan and Allen are working more as a team with Shanny having the final say or is it more of Shanny saying - Bruce, do this, this, and this. Just curious as to whether, so far (and admittedly it wayyyy early), Shanny seems to be putting a small part of his ego aside.
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Do you know if Shannahan and Allen are working more as a team with Shanny having the final say or is it more of Shanny saying - Bruce, do this, this, and this. Just curious as to whether, so far (and admittedly it wayyyy early), Shanny seems to be putting a small part of his ego aside.
Definitely working together. It's not "Hey Bruce, go get McNabb" or "Hey Mike, I just got McNabb"

It's more "Hey Mike, made a few phone calls and I think we can get McNabb. Let's talk about it" (they discuss) "Sounds great Bruce, go for it"
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I think Mike S. came in and whats to install a new work ethic and I bet he first targeted Portis to be his example that no one is above the system but Portis has played nice since MS has arrived thus opening the door to AH as being the example.

I understand it is voluntary but these guys need to realize they are in a special situation where if they are smart with their money they will never have to work again. Put in 11 years of hard labor and then you are set for life look at Chris Samuels.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:36 PM   #57
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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

Since the poll was added, I went ahead and cast my vote for Shanahan. That said, Haynesworth is understandably upset about being moved to NT in a 3-4. When he came here, he was very clear that he wanted to become the next Reggie White. He wants to be successful personally and he knows that playing him at NT would be downright stupid. In my opinion, he's Shanahan is giving him the Lavar treatment and I think its kind of petty.
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Haynesworth at NT, Redskins playing the 3-4...

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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

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Definitely working together. It's not "Hey Bruce, go get McNabb" or "Hey Mike, I just got McNabb"

It's more "Hey Mike, made a few phone calls and I think we can get McNabb. Let's talk about it" (they discuss) "Sounds great Bruce, go for it"
Great Thanks! That is both good to hear and backs up the impression I got.

Next question: Is that different from how Shanahan operated in Denver? My impression as to his tenure there particularly over the last several years was that it was "All Mike, All the time".

Further questions pending.
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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

Why is everyone so sure that Haynesworth would be a NT in a 3-4? It makes no sense to me?

Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer?

He might but I doubt it.
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