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Old 04-09-2010, 09:50 AM   #61
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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

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Do you know if Shannahan and Allen are working more as a team with Shanny having the final say or is it more of Shanny saying - Bruce, do this, this, and this. Just curious as to whether, so far (and admittedly it wayyyy early), Shanny seems to be putting a small part of his ego aside.
Definitely working together. It's not "Hey Bruce, go get McNabb" or "Hey Mike, I just got McNabb"

It's more "Hey Mike, made a few phone calls and I think we can get McNabb. Let's talk about it" (they discuss) "Sounds great Bruce, go for it"
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:45 AM   #62
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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

I think Mike S. came in and whats to install a new work ethic and I bet he first targeted Portis to be his example that no one is above the system but Portis has played nice since MS has arrived thus opening the door to AH as being the example.

I understand it is voluntary but these guys need to realize they are in a special situation where if they are smart with their money they will never have to work again. Put in 11 years of hard labor and then you are set for life look at Chris Samuels.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:36 PM   #63
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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

Since the poll was added, I went ahead and cast my vote for Shanahan. That said, Haynesworth is understandably upset about being moved to NT in a 3-4. When he came here, he was very clear that he wanted to become the next Reggie White. He wants to be successful personally and he knows that playing him at NT would be downright stupid. In my opinion, he's Shanahan is giving him the Lavar treatment and I think its kind of petty.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:38 PM   #64
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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

Haynesworth at NT, Redskins playing the 3-4...

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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

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Definitely working together. It's not "Hey Bruce, go get McNabb" or "Hey Mike, I just got McNabb"

It's more "Hey Mike, made a few phone calls and I think we can get McNabb. Let's talk about it" (they discuss) "Sounds great Bruce, go for it"
Great Thanks! That is both good to hear and backs up the impression I got.

Next question: Is that different from how Shanahan operated in Denver? My impression as to his tenure there particularly over the last several years was that it was "All Mike, All the time".

Further questions pending.
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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

Why is everyone so sure that Haynesworth would be a NT in a 3-4? It makes no sense to me?

Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer?

He might but I doubt it.
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:28 PM   #67
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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

^ In a statement released by the team the other day, AH was described as "our starting nose tackle."
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Why would the players union get involved at all? AH isn't obligated to show, but at the same time the Skins aren't doing anything wrong by shopping him. Neither side is technically in the wrong, they just aren't on the same page.
I was thinking the exact same thing after reading two pages. That, and JR wants to keep the AH story going. For him, stirring the pot is what he does best.

AH makes more money than MS, bottom line. The man is expensive. MS is all about himself and the team. It's not the money thing for him, it's control.

Two different philosophies on life.

The third philosophy I'm just not sure about is Jim Haslett's defense.
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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

From a Mike Shanahan interview with NFL Fanhouse....

Shanahan Believes Redskins Made Great Grab in McNabb -- NFL FanHouse

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On trading Albert Haynesworth: "There is nothing to clarify. It is just speculation. He's part of the organization. I am just looking for him to come in and work and be like everyone else. No, we're not going to trade him at all, unless someone gives us something we would have to consider -- that's pretty standard with any player on your roster. He's a pretty smart guy. He's really talented. I think I can get that out of him.''
The whole is pretty good and interesting, but I thought I'd point out how he dismisses the AH overblown story.
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Pretty much what he's said all along. The story is getting a lot of hype, but behind closed doors I have to believe they are interested in moving him for the right price.

Word is the Broncos might be willing to part with Marshall for a 2nd rounder, so if we could somehow get a 2nd for AH...
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Good to hear, I still think that it had more to do with his bonus than anything else.
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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

Haynesworth just got paid a $21,000,000 bonus and he can't bring himself to accomodate his coach? That is the height of narcissism. For that kind of money, he should be willing to (insert word here) Shanahan at midfield during the halftime show.
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Great Thanks! That is both good to hear and backs up the impression I got. Next question: Is that different from how Shanahan operated in Denver? My impression as to his tenure there particularly over the last several years was that it was "All Mike, All the time". Further questions pending.
I'm not really sure. My understanding is that he has always insisted on final say but expects and relies on input from key people. But Allen's talent is really being that kind of exec, someone who can effectively lay out the scenarios and then hekp execute the plan
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Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

This crap is WAY overblown.
The big fatty just wants to diet alone to get in shape...
Heck, back in the day we'd lose Riggo or Jurgensen for getting in their face about frickin' offseason "voluntary" workouts...what about Shawn Springs a few years ago...he was our best defender...what about Portis when he was our best player...he showed up....kinda....he just pretended....what about Shahan with the GMen or Farve for that matter...leave the poor guy alone and let him show up and kick everyones ass.

I am not one of those that feel he had a bad season at all...
I think he escallated the Dlines effectiveness 100%.
I like Haynesworth....get off his back! He's a playa!
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Old 04-09-2010, 11:36 PM   #75
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I think Mike S. came in and whats to install a new work ethic and I bet he first targeted Portis to be his example that no one is above the system
If that is the case....why have they gone after guys with historical attitude problems such as Larry Johnson...he isn't exactly known for being particular about his players being conformists....this is not Joe Gibbs who puts character first.

I just think Shanny has got a bug up his butt because he is trying to establish his Power ...and what way to do that better than to knock the big dog down...he's already essentially dumped the leader of the offense...he is doing the same with the biggest player on D.

He doesn't need to be such a bully with Big Al...he's kinda quiet for a Dlineman.
He's made his point, but we are a far better team with Big Al that without him...just look at our sack numbers year to year...not to mention how we got smoked on run D the prior year...especially against the Gmen on the edge against Carter.

I say....Lay off...don't mess with Haynesworth...he deserves a chance to work out alone and prove he is a stud
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