Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer

Lotus · 04-09-2010, 01:28 PM

^ In a statement released by the team the other day, AH was described as "our starting nose tackle."

backrow · 04-09-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Why would the players union get involved at all? AH isn't obligated to show, but at the same time the Skins aren't doing anything wrong by shopping him. Neither side is technically in the wrong, they just aren't on the same page.

I was thinking the exact same thing after reading two pages. That, and JR wants to keep the AH story going. For him, stirring the pot is what he does best.

AH makes more money than MS, bottom line. The man is expensive. MS is all about himself and the team. It's not the money thing for him, it's control.

Two different philosophies on life.

The third philosophy I'm just not sure about is Jim Haslett's defense.

Ruhskins · 04-09-2010, 03:36 PM

From a Mike Shanahan interview with NFL Fanhouse....

Shanahan Believes Redskins Made Great Grab in McNabb -- NFL FanHouse

Quote:

On trading Albert Haynesworth: "There is nothing to clarify. It is just speculation. He's part of the organization. I am just looking for him to come in and work and be like everyone else. No, we're not going to trade him at all, unless someone gives us something we would have to consider -- that's pretty standard with any player on your roster. He's a pretty smart guy. He's really talented. I think I can get that out of him.''

The whole is pretty good and interesting, but I thought I'd point out how he dismisses the AH overblown story.

Mattyk · 04-09-2010, 03:48 PM

Pretty much what he's said all along. The story is getting a lot of hype, but behind closed doors I have to believe they are interested in moving him for the right price.

Word is the Broncos might be willing to part with Marshall for a 2nd rounder, so if we could somehow get a 2nd for AH...

tryfuhl · 04-09-2010, 03:50 PM

Good to hear, I still think that it had more to do with his bonus than anything else.

KI Skins Fan · 04-09-2010, 07:13 PM

Haynesworth just got paid a $21,000,000 bonus and he can't bring himself to accomodate his coach? That is the height of narcissism. For that kind of money, he should be willing to (insert word here) Shanahan at midfield during the halftime show.

SmootSmack · 04-09-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Great Thanks! That is both good to hear and backs up the impression I got. Next question: Is that different from how Shanahan operated in Denver? My impression as to his tenure there particularly over the last several years was that it was "All Mike, All the time". Further questions pending.

I'm not really sure. My understanding is that he has always insisted on final say but expects and relies on input from key people. But Allen's talent is really being that kind of exec, someone who can effectively lay out the scenarios and then hekp execute the plan

skinsnut · 04-09-2010, 11:25 PM

This crap is WAY overblown.
The big fatty just wants to diet alone to get in shape...
Heck, back in the day we'd lose Riggo or Jurgensen for getting in their face about frickin' offseason "voluntary" workouts...what about Shawn Springs a few years ago...he was our best defender...what about Portis when he was our best player...he showed up....kinda....he just pretended....what about Shahan with the GMen or Farve for that matter...leave the poor guy alone and let him show up and kick everyones ass.

I am not one of those that feel he had a bad season at all...
I think he escallated the Dlines effectiveness 100%.
I like Haynesworth....get off his back! He's a playa!

skinsnut · 04-09-2010, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

I think Mike S. came in and whats to install a new work ethic and I bet he first targeted Portis to be his example that no one is above the system

If that is the case....why have they gone after guys with historical attitude problems such as Larry Johnson...he isn't exactly known for being particular about his players being conformists....this is not Joe Gibbs who puts character first.

I just think Shanny has got a bug up his butt because he is trying to establish his Power ...and what way to do that better than to knock the big dog down...he's already essentially dumped the leader of the offense...he is doing the same with the biggest player on D.

He doesn't need to be such a bully with Big Al...he's kinda quiet for a Dlineman.
He's made his point, but we are a far better team with Big Al that without him...just look at our sack numbers year to year...not to mention how we got smoked on run D the prior year...especially against the Gmen on the edge against Carter.

I say....Lay off...don't mess with Haynesworth...he deserves a chance to work out alone and prove he is a stud

tryfuhl · 04-10-2010, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Haynesworth just got paid a $21,000,000 bonus and he can't bring himself to accomodate his coach? That is the height of narcissism. For that kind of money, he should be willing to (insert word here) Shanahan at midfield during the halftime show.

Neither Shanahan nor Allen signed him to that contract.

SBXVII · 04-10-2010, 01:18 AM

Who do I side with "legally" or "Morally"?

Legally:

AH does not have to be here. There is a reason it's called "voluntary" work outs.

Morally:

AH makes a ton of money. I'd love to see him take one year and have to work in some of our jobs making not even a fraction of what he earns and having to be at work Mon. through Fri. all year except for his vacation time. Let him tell his boss "no" and expect to keep his job. LOL. He might have a different oppinion on where he should be afterward. For 20 mill as a bonus I'd do almost whatever my boss said...."oh you want me to be the RB...Ok", then run everyone over like a freight train. You want me to clean the bathroom in the locker room.... it would be so clean you could eat off it.

RememberRFK · 04-10-2010, 09:37 AM

It is hard for me to forget Fatal Bert stomping on the head (twice) of the Dallas center. I was watching that game and I couln't believe my eyes. I pretty much figured it took two to tango but got way out of hand. As the years went by from that momment, Fatal Bert has done nothing to make me think that what he did that day was an isolated incident. Now we have his ill will blowing throughout our team. You may not chose to smell it but it's there.

Paintrain · 04-10-2010, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Haynesworth just got paid a $21,000,000 bonus and he can't bring himself to accomodate his coach? That is the height of narcissism. For that kind of money, he should be willing to (insert word here) Shanahan at midfield during the halftime show.

Would it be any different if he just got paid a $21,000 bonus? What does money have to do with being a professional? I'd expect no more or less professionalism from the highest paid player than the 53rd highest paid player. Tying salary to leadership is always a foolish mistake. He should be there because of his teammates and his dedication to making the team the best they can be, not because he made more money than the GNP of most European countries.

RememberRFK · 04-10-2010, 10:32 AM

I can see Shanny blowing out Fatal Bert because of his attitude and selfishness but at the same time, after paying him all of that "KASHE", wouldn't you rather see Shanny proceed in some other direction. To get some of his "KASHE" back?

RememberRFK · 04-10-2010, 11:17 AM

There is not a coach in th NFL (imo) that can build a team of players that do not have the perfect attitude, physical talents or mental baggage. I will tell all of you that from time to time, my comments will seem absolutly insane. Are we a team here, no. Do we work together here, no. Still, we blog and try to get some type of enjoyment out of this site which primarily I believe we do. So my point to you is do not judge the players that may have a checkered past. I remember the last time I needed a second chance and man am I glad I got it. Would you be ?

View Poll Results: Shanahan vs. Haynesworth: who do you side with?
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04-09-2010, 01:28 PM	#61
Lotus Mann Up HOF! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 8,906	Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer ^ In a statement released by the team the other day, AH was described as "our starting nose tackle." __________________ Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.

04-09-2010, 03:48 PM	#64
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,739	Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer Pretty much what he's said all along. The story is getting a lot of hype, but behind closed doors I have to believe they are interested in moving him for the right price. Word is the Broncos might be willing to part with Marshall for a 2nd rounder, so if we could somehow get a 2nd for AH... __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-09-2010, 03:50 PM	#65
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 29 Posts: 12,512	Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer Good to hear, I still think that it had more to do with his bonus than anything else.

04-09-2010, 07:13 PM	#66
KI Skins Fan The Starter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: MD Eastern Shore Posts: 1,297	Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer Haynesworth just got paid a $21,000,000 bonus and he can't bring himself to accomodate his coach? That is the height of narcissism. For that kind of money, he should be willing to (insert word here) Shanahan at midfield during the halftime show.

04-09-2010, 11:25 PM	#68
skinsnut The Starter Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,172	Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer This crap is WAY overblown. The big fatty just wants to diet alone to get in shape... Heck, back in the day we'd lose Riggo or Jurgensen for getting in their face about frickin' offseason "voluntary" workouts...what about Shawn Springs a few years ago...he was our best defender...what about Portis when he was our best player...he showed up....kinda....he just pretended....what about Shahan with the GMen or Farve for that matter...leave the poor guy alone and let him show up and kick everyones ass. I am not one of those that feel he had a bad season at all... I think he escallated the Dlines effectiveness 100%. I like Haynesworth....get off his back! He's a playa! __________________ I hate Dallas...Period

04-10-2010, 01:18 AM	#71
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer Who do I side with "legally" or "Morally"? Legally: AH does not have to be here. There is a reason it's called "voluntary" work outs. Morally: AH makes a ton of money. I'd love to see him take one year and have to work in some of our jobs making not even a fraction of what he earns and having to be at work Mon. through Fri. all year except for his vacation time. Let him tell his boss "no" and expect to keep his job. LOL. He might have a different oppinion on where he should be afterward. For 20 mill as a bonus I'd do almost whatever my boss said...."oh you want me to be the RB...Ok", then run everyone over like a freight train. You want me to clean the bathroom in the locker room.... it would be so clean you could eat off it.

04-10-2010, 09:37 AM	#72
RememberRFK Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ft Myers, Florida Posts: 55	Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer It is hard for me to forget Fatal Bert stomping on the head (twice) of the Dallas center. I was watching that game and I couln't believe my eyes. I pretty much figured it took two to tango but got way out of hand. As the years went by from that momment, Fatal Bert has done nothing to make me think that what he did that day was an isolated incident. Now we have his ill will blowing throughout our team. You may not chose to smell it but it's there.

04-10-2010, 10:32 AM	#74
RememberRFK Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ft Myers, Florida Posts: 55	Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer I can see Shanny blowing out Fatal Bert because of his attitude and selfishness but at the same time, after paying him all of that "KASHE", wouldn't you rather see Shanny proceed in some other direction. To get some of his "KASHE" back?

04-10-2010, 11:17 AM	#75
RememberRFK Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ft Myers, Florida Posts: 55	Re: Haynesworth might learn a few things about Shanahan from Plummer There is not a coach in th NFL (imo) that can build a team of players that do not have the perfect attitude, physical talents or mental baggage. I will tell all of you that from time to time, my comments will seem absolutly insane. Are we a team here, no. Do we work together here, no. Still, we blog and try to get some type of enjoyment out of this site which primarily I believe we do. So my point to you is do not judge the players that may have a checkered past. I remember the last time I needed a second chance and man am I glad I got it. Would you be ?

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