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Old 04-08-2010, 05:18 PM   #16
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Re: Different Season, Same Trap

Sheeeeeeeeeit. No Flozell Adams talk for the rest of the day.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:24 PM   #17
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Given what we know today: we will win between 5 and 12 games. McNabb will have more TD's than INT's. Our RB's will have more than 200 carries combined.

I'll be more specific once preseason starts.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:26 PM   #18
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I think there's two good reasons for some optimism:

Shanahan and now McNabb

Plus, after last season it can't get any worse. Can it?
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:27 PM   #19
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I think the cobination of players brought in, the draft and coaching will greatly change us for the better:

Eagles -W
Cowboys -W
Giants -L
Colts-L
Bucs -W
Rams -W
Texans -W
Bears-W
Packers -L
Vikes -L
Lion-W
Jags -W
Titans -L
Eagles-W
Giants-W
Cowboys-W

I say 11-5, we will win against the teams we are supposed to beat. I think we will sweep the Eagles. The Giants have had our number recently so I say we will split with them. The cowboys I will always say we beat because I hate them. We will beat the Texans Kyle should know that team like the back of his hand. I think the running game is the piece that everyone is underestimating right now.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:33 PM   #20
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I love optimism as much as the next guy. But from the outside looking in, besides the coach and GM this team still has essentially the same face.

Got McNabb, sure. But is not this team reputed to be one that tends to sign big names that are past thier prime? How is this any different?

And such lofty predictions even BEFORE the draft, before mini camps, before the roster is solidified. Way too much can happen between now and September.

And do you really think enough is being done to improve by 6 or 7 wins? Last time that happened was 1999 when the Rams went 13-3 after a 3-13 season in 1998.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:41 PM   #21
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I love optimism as much as the next guy. But from the outside looking in, besides the coach and GM this team still has essentially the same face.

Got McNabb, sure. But is not this team reputed to be one that tends to sign big names that are past thier prime? How is this any different?

And such lofty predictions even BEFORE the draft, before mini camps, before the roster is solidified. Way too much can happen between now and September.

And do you really think enough is being done to improve by 6 or 7 wins? Last time that happened was 1999 when the Rams went 13-3 after a 3-13 season in 1998.
All that does is state that it can happen, and we actually could be lowballing projections for the Wins department! thats all. and if there is a coach that could make a drastic turnaround like that, Id take shanny any day of the week, and twice on sundays!
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:43 PM   #22
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Given what we know today: we will win between 5 and 12 games. McNabb will have more TD's than INT's. Our RB's will have more than 200 carries combined.

I'll be more specific once preseason starts.
I think you nailed it "C". I agree. It's almost like you're "psychic" or something.

I'm just really glad Kyle Shanahan is here.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:48 PM   #23
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I'm just hoping my rooting for McNabb now that he's a Redskin will yield better results than the times I rooted for him as an Eagle.

After rooting for Donovan in every big game he's played in and been dissapointed more often than not, I can imagine what it must have been like for Eagle fans. I won't find it odd rooting for him now that he's here, and if he can stay healthy he will improve our W/L record........to what extent I'm not sure.

I'll continue to be optomistic about the team's ability to improve until there's clear evidence to the contrary.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:51 PM   #24
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Re: Different Season, Same Trap

And to add to the apparent euphoria, now this from a writer that never was bashful in bashing the ‘Skins (sometimes for good reason):

“…Thus far, the upgrades -- in front office personnel, coaching staff and quarterback -- have already returned the Redskins to being a contending team. The days of being the butt of jokes appear to be over. As are the days of coddling prima donnas, over-reaching for players past their primes, and parting with draft picks haphazardly…”

Jason La Canfora column-NFL.com

He went on further to say some very positive things about the recent evolution happening at Redskins Park. Has JLaC’s prescription for Hydrocodone been refilled or something?
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Old 04-08-2010, 06:08 PM   #25
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Without knowing who will play on the o-line I find it impossible to speculate too much. However, I will say that Shanny's system will be far more familiar than new to McNabb. Reid's Philly offensive concepts are not dissimilar.
well for the most part we know exactly who will play on the offensive line.
Left guard is Derrick Dockery. Center is Casey Rabach. Right guard is EITHER Hicks or Big Mike. Right tackle is Heyer because Shanny keeps talking like he ishigh on him. And HOPEFULLY...Okung will be the left tackle. That is the only position which is clearly up in the air but we will know that in less than 2 weeks.
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Old 04-08-2010, 06:08 PM   #26
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Yeah this happens too often. I know we got a GM, but even with Donovan in the fold, our team is weak with a roster of underperformers so you can't believe we will go better than 10-6. 8-8 or 9-7 is my bet. 10-6 is not out of range in my opinion, but our Wr corp has to be much improved as well as our D. I think it is great to be optimistic, but with the letdowns we all have experienced we need to temper it down a bit. That way if they do only have around a 500 record it isn't much of a disappointment, and if they do get double digit wins we can be totally elated.
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well for the most part we know exactly who will play on the offensive line.
Left guard is Derrick Dockery. Center is Casey Rabach. Right guard is EITHER Hicks or Big Mike. Right tackle is Heyer because Shanny keeps talking like he ishigh on him. And HOPEFULLY...Okung will be the left tackle. That is the only position which is clearly up in the air but we will know that in less than 2 weeks.
Don't count Rino out just yet.
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I love optimism as much as the next guy. But from the outside looking in, besides the coach and GM this team still has essentially the same face.

Got McNabb, sure. But is not this team reputed to be one that tends to sign big names that are past thier prime? How is this any different?

And such lofty predictions even BEFORE the draft, before mini camps, before the roster is solidified. Way too much can happen between now and September.

And do you really think enough is being done to improve by 6 or 7 wins? Last time that happened was 1999 when the Rams went 13-3 after a 3-13 season in 1998.

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Old 04-08-2010, 06:29 PM   #29
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I think there's two good reasons for some optimism:

Shanahan and now McNabb

Plus, after last season it can't get any worse. Can it?
We willl do way better than 4-12, but the other guys are right, other than McNabb and our two FA running backs, we still are essentially the same team.Since we lost our #2 pick to get McNabb, we might only be able to scrounge up one starter for our O line this year. Any linemen in rounds 4-7 if you play the odds, are going to be just roster fodder or practice squad material if they show some promise.
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well for the most part we know exactly who will play on the offensive line.
Left guard is Derrick Dockery. Center is Casey Rabach. Right guard is EITHER Hicks or Big Mike. Right tackle is Heyer because Shanny keeps talking like he ishigh on him. And HOPEFULLY...Okung will be the left tackle. That is the only position which is clearly up in the air but we will know that in less than 2 weeks.
Let's look again:

LT: ??? at least until April 22 - there is no guarantee right now that Shanny will draft Okung
LG: Dock
C: Rabach
RG: you actually indicate that this is in doubt. Could be Hicks, Williams, Rino, or a FA or rookie to be named later
RT: Heyer is hardly a shoo-in. Could be a FA or rookie to be named later.

The offensive line of 2009 brought down the whole team. The offensive line of 2010 is 60% uncertain right now. QED it is too early to be making predictions.
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