Why not Fred Davis for Gaither?

skinsfan69 · 04-11-2010, 08:58 AM

why make a trade for a guy who is lazy and doesn't want to work? let's just draft our own LT and mold the guy.

Daseal · 04-11-2010, 09:16 AM

Carnage,

Besides that first mishap (and I know you've never accidentally over-slept) Fred Davis has done nothing but work, and work hard. Personally, I'd rather trade Cooley. I love the dude, but he's slightly older and would bring more value to the table. If Shanahan will actually use a lot of two TE sets, both as receivers, great. Keep both of them and look for mismatches. Otherwise, we need to trade one to build other, weaker, areas of our team.

Beneil (diehard since 87) · 04-11-2010, 09:47 AM

I really don't see how it would be a good idea to lose Cooley OR Davis. Assuming Cooley is 100%, under Shannahan's offense, he's a probowler! As for Davis, I would argue that he's AS physicaly gifted, but not MORE physicaly gifted than Cooley, but Cooley DEFINATELY has better hands in the passing game. Though Davis had fewer drops than the 2nd time rookies (Thomas & Kelly) he wasn't as sure handed as Cooley.

That being said, without him, we'd have had fewer wins in Cooley's absense. Why NOT have two great TE's!?!?

NYCskinfan82 · 04-11-2010, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carnage

Let me get this right..this is the Fred Davis plummeted in the draft for poor work habits then SLEPT through his first practice. Im glad hes showing potential but he is entering his third season.
I will always hate that we drafted him right before desean jackson, who is a star.
No way at all that gaither gets cut.

GAITHER'S HEART ISN'T IN FOOTBALL so we should trade for him, FD messed up his first year at the begining & looked good last year you must be related to VC. :smashfrea

Beneil (diehard since 87) · 04-11-2010, 09:50 AM

If I HAD to trade, i guess I'd trade Cooley and hope Fred's hands develope. That's only because i think we can get more with Cooley as bait. But i don't want to trade Cooley! he's too good! he's not old for a TE, hes in his prime and if anyone is to reap the benefits, it should be US!

KI Skins Fan · 04-11-2010, 10:16 AM

From what I have read in the Baltimore Sun, the Ravens might be willing move Gaither because they are fed up with his poor work ethic. So, if the Redskins are thinking that they might be able to pick up two talented young OT's by drafting Okung and trading for Gaither, they need to ask themselves if they want to try to reform Gaither.

Also, is it better to have two talented TE's who are very similar players or two talented young OT's? I would say that it is definitely much better for the team to have the two good young OT's.

Would the Ravens accept a Davis or Cooley for Gaither trade? I doubt it because they already have a good, if declining, TE in Todd Heap and now they have Anquan Boldin who can give them some of the same capabilities that Davis or Cooley would bring.

My bottom line on the whole idea of trading for Gaither is that I would take the risk and even overpay (in trade value) for him if we could put something together that would convince the Ravens to trade him. Then I would draft Okung or another top OT who has the potential to play on the left side. Gaither would start out playing LT and the rookie would play RT. Then , down the road, the Skins would determine whether or not to switch the two. Either way, we would have the critical OLT position covered.

NYCskinfan82 · 04-11-2010, 10:26 AM

If we get Gaither GOOD i just don't think we should trade a good player for a player who's heart isn't in it.

SouperMeister · 04-11-2010, 03:35 PM

Teams don't trade solid young left tackles for tight ends. Sounds great on paper, but Baltimore would never do it.

SouperMeister · 04-11-2010, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carnage

Let me get this right..this is the Fred Davis plummeted in the draft for poor work habits then SLEPT through his first practice. Im glad hes showing potential but he is entering his third season.
I will always hate that we drafted him right before desean jackson, who is a star.
No way at all that gaither gets cut.

For that matter, Vinny also drafted Malcolm Kelly when Ray Rice was there for the taking. Consider that he had taken Devin Thomas and Fred Davis earlier in the round. Ray Rice would look pretty good in B&G today.

Dirtbag59 · 04-11-2010, 04:22 PM

Gaither is a stoner. Not the worst thing in the world but for someone rumored to have two strikes against him I feel pretty good changing my mind about him.

The Goat · 04-11-2010, 05:38 PM

No on Gaither. We're drafting Okung and trading some players for another pick or two. I think the best case scenario is packaging Cooley/JC together somehow because we'll get more than each could bring individually.

TheBackupKicker · 04-11-2010, 06:27 PM

its funny that some of you are acting like trading cooley is a given

cooley and davis are untradable!

TheBackupKicker · 04-11-2010, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carnage

Let me get this right..this is the Fred Davis plummeted in the draft for poor work habits then SLEPT through his first practice. Im glad hes showing potential but he is entering his third season.
I will always hate that we drafted him right before desean jackson, who is a star.
No way at all that gaither gets cut.

if the skins drafted jackson he would of did shit cuz our QB was JC

McNabb made jackson a star

The Goat · 04-11-2010, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Gaither is a stoner. Not the worst thing in the world but for someone rumored to have two strikes against him I feel pretty good changing my mind about him.

Ahhh now I understand the lack of aggression he displays

Beneil (diehard since 87) · 04-12-2010, 12:01 AM

The ravens had the highest ranked o-line in the NFL last year. That they would diminish it for a TE is highly unlikely.

04-11-2010, 08:58 AM	#31
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,105	Re: Why not Fred Davis for Gaither? why make a trade for a guy who is lazy and doesn't want to work? let's just draft our own LT and mold the guy.

04-11-2010, 09:16 AM	#32
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: Why not Fred Davis for Gaither? Carnage, Besides that first mishap (and I know you've never accidentally over-slept) Fred Davis has done nothing but work, and work hard. Personally, I'd rather trade Cooley. I love the dude, but he's slightly older and would bring more value to the table. If Shanahan will actually use a lot of two TE sets, both as receivers, great. Keep both of them and look for mismatches. Otherwise, we need to trade one to build other, weaker, areas of our team. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

04-11-2010, 09:47 AM	#33
Beneil (diehard since 87) Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 118	Re: Why not Fred Davis for Gaither? I really don't see how it would be a good idea to lose Cooley OR Davis. Assuming Cooley is 100%, under Shannahan's offense, he's a probowler! As for Davis, I would argue that he's AS physicaly gifted, but not MORE physicaly gifted than Cooley, but Cooley DEFINATELY has better hands in the passing game. Though Davis had fewer drops than the 2nd time rookies (Thomas & Kelly) he wasn't as sure handed as Cooley. That being said, without him, we'd have had fewer wins in Cooley's absense. Why NOT have two great TE's!?!?

04-11-2010, 09:50 AM	#35
Beneil (diehard since 87) Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 118	Re: Why not Fred Davis for Gaither? If I HAD to trade, i guess I'd trade Cooley and hope Fred's hands develope. That's only because i think we can get more with Cooley as bait. But i don't want to trade Cooley! he's too good! he's not old for a TE, hes in his prime and if anyone is to reap the benefits, it should be US!

04-11-2010, 10:16 AM	#36
KI Skins Fan The Starter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: MD Eastern Shore Posts: 1,297	Re: Why not Fred Davis for Gaither? From what I have read in the Baltimore Sun, the Ravens might be willing move Gaither because they are fed up with his poor work ethic. So, if the Redskins are thinking that they might be able to pick up two talented young OT's by drafting Okung and trading for Gaither, they need to ask themselves if they want to try to reform Gaither. Also, is it better to have two talented TE's who are very similar players or two talented young OT's? I would say that it is definitely much better for the team to have the two good young OT's. Would the Ravens accept a Davis or Cooley for Gaither trade? I doubt it because they already have a good, if declining, TE in Todd Heap and now they have Anquan Boldin who can give them some of the same capabilities that Davis or Cooley would bring. My bottom line on the whole idea of trading for Gaither is that I would take the risk and even overpay (in trade value) for him if we could put something together that would convince the Ravens to trade him. Then I would draft Okung or another top OT who has the potential to play on the left side. Gaither would start out playing LT and the rookie would play RT. Then , down the road, the Skins would determine whether or not to switch the two. Either way, we would have the critical OLT position covered.

04-11-2010, 10:26 AM	#37
NYCskinfan82 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Age: 43 Posts: 2,977	Re: Why not Fred Davis for Gaither? If we get Gaither GOOD i just don't think we should trade a good player for a player who's heart isn't in it.

04-11-2010, 03:35 PM	#38
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 48 Posts: 2,917	Re: Why not Fred Davis for Gaither? Teams don't trade solid young left tackles for tight ends. Sounds great on paper, but Baltimore would never do it.

04-11-2010, 04:22 PM	#40
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,958	Re: Why not Fred Davis for Gaither? Gaither is a stoner. Not the worst thing in the world but for someone rumored to have two strikes against him I feel pretty good changing my mind about him. __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

04-11-2010, 05:38 PM	#41
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,021	Re: Why not Fred Davis for Gaither? No on Gaither. We're drafting Okung and trading some players for another pick or two. I think the best case scenario is packaging Cooley/JC together somehow because we'll get more than each could bring individually. __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes he eats you.

04-11-2010, 06:27 PM	#42
TheBackupKicker Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 54	Re: Why not Fred Davis for Gaither? its funny that some of you are acting like trading cooley is a given cooley and davis are untradable! __________________ Trade for Brandon Marshall B Marshall stats the last 3 seasons 2009- 101 catches 1120 yards 2008- 104 catches 1265 yards 2007- 102 catches 1325 yards LETS GO CAPS

04-12-2010, 12:01 AM	#45
Beneil (diehard since 87) Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 118	Re: Why not Fred Davis for Gaither? The ravens had the highest ranked o-line in the NFL last year. That they would diminish it for a TE is highly unlikely.

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