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Old 04-12-2010, 11:20 AM   #31
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Really? Braylon Edwards, Santonio Holmes, and Jericho Cotchery are a weak spot? I would hate to know what you think of an average WR corps.
I think they now have a pretty solid WR corps. Weak spot? Damn our WRs must be downright pathetic.
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:22 AM   #32
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They really like Mike Wallace
They better. Randel El won't be Holmes' replacement.


The NJ Jets are building up a great team around a bad QB, which could actually work.

RB, they're solid. LT may be a slight downgrade at this point from Thomas Jones and Leon Washington, but as a part-time back, he could do fine.

WR, they're solid with Braylon Edwards and Holmes.

O-line is the best in the NFL since The Hogs.

One of the better defenses in the league.




If Sanchez can turn his 20 INTs into even "just" 15, they could win it all. I never see Fez becoming a top NFL QB, but in a Trent Dilfer role, he could win.
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:23 AM   #33
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Interesting stuff from Mort, especially for those (like myself) who think it was a bad trade:

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Eddie B (Steelers beat writer) reported this A.M. Holmes was about to be released. a 5 was best they could do
This was a tweet, I removed the RT tags and such
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:49 AM   #34
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I think they now have a pretty solid WR corps. Weak spot? Damn our WRs must be downright pathetic.
I think that it's just their style of football that makes them look worse than they actually are.
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:55 AM   #35
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I think that it's just their style of football that makes them look worse than they actually are.
Well if making the playoffs all the way into the AFC championship is looking bad, then you have ridiculous standards.


That being said, I think any offensive ineptitude shown by the NYJ last season probably just had to do by Sanchez' growing pains. Although, I think this upcoming season they should be fine and should be a contender unless Sanchez has a sophomore slump and/or LT and L. Washington breakdown.
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:04 PM   #36
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The Steelers must have really been sick of his act because they pretty much threw him out with Monday's trash. Once Holmes is exposed to everything NYC has to offer it wont be long before he's in trouble again.
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I think that it's just their style of football that makes them look worse than they actually are.
What style makes who look worse? The Jets have some legitimate threats on the outside. If anything they were already dangerous, now they are down right scary. Their run/ pas options have increased significantly. I would hate to be the team that has to defend that running game with those threats lined up on the outside.
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What style makes who look worse? The Jets have some legitimate threats on the outside. If anything they were already dangerous, now they are down right scary. Their run/ pas options have increased significantly. I would hate to be the team that has to defend that running game with those threats lined up on the outside.
No, what I tried to say is that that running 5000 times a game and playing tough defense on the majority in the games most people see the Jets play makes people think their O to be more "bland" or "boring" than they actually are.
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Old 04-12-2010, 12:57 PM   #39
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They'll go after either Dez Bryant or Golden Tate in the draft, whoever is available when they pick at #17.
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Well if making the playoffs all the way into the AFC championship is looking bad, then you have ridiculous standards.


That being said, I think any offensive ineptitude shown by the NYJ last season probably just had to do by Sanchez' growing pains. Although, I think this upcoming season they should be fine and should be a contender unless Sanchez has a sophomore slump and/or LT and L. Washington breakdown.
I'm talking about the aesthetic effects, not actual play effectiveness. There are no standards being propagated by me that run counter to conventional indicators of good O suchs as YPA for QBs, YPC for RBs, TD-INT ratio and the like.
Since you want to counter my point, and thus are arguing that the psychological effect of smashmouth running and tough defense all day is not going bore people to death and negatively affect their perception of a team's offense even if the O is actually not bad at all and instead wow them like the Saints' or Colts' explosive offenses, I would like to see at least some examples of that.
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They'll go after either Dez Bryant or Golden Tate in the draft, whoever is available when they pick at #17.
Why not a younger running back or a playmaking safety?
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Why not a younger running back or a playmaking safety?
They've got Mendenhall and Palumalu and Ryan Clark, Wallace is good, Sweed hasn't done squat, Hines Ward and Randle El are old.
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They've got Mendenhall and Palumalu and Ryan Clark, Wallace is good, Sweed hasn't done squat, Hines Ward and Randle El are old.
Oh, you were talking about the Steelers, I was talking about the Jets.
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Re: Holmes traded to jets.

Are we going to sit back and watch this like a b***h OR are we going to toughen up and trade for Brandon Marshall. We can't let the Jets or any team from Pittsburgh steal our offseason thunder.
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:26 PM   #45
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Re: Holmes traded to jets.

This probably sounded better in his head:
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