What Will Jason Campbell's Legacy Be?

over the mountain · 04-26-2010, 03:04 PM

well, one legacy argument could be that he is the guy coach gibbs made a huge mistake on, maybe his greatest player evaluation mistake.

JC is an average QB at best, down right boring to watch at worst.

wish the man well, he seems to be a great person.

SolidSnake84 · 04-26-2010, 03:06 PM

I really feel like he will go the way of other redskins qb's/draft busts. A la Ramsey, Schuler, Wuerrful, Matthews, etc. How many of us talk about them now?

He was a barely mediocre passer who was careful with the ball, and didn't make decisions that would hurt the team. He may have been too cautious, but he was a good game manager who could preserve a win if the overall team was playing lights out. He makes me think of a poor man's Kerry Collins.

If Jason doesn't win the starting job, and Tom Cable says now there is no reason to assume that the job is his, he will have a good career as a primary backup. He always has a positive attitude and prepares for the game well. He just came up a little too short in the talent department to be a serious NFL starter. I could be wrong. Time will tell.

I'll never understand why Gibbs drafted him when it was clear that Gibbs wasn't going to be here long enough in his second go-around to develop a QB for the future.

BigHairedAristocrat · 04-26-2010, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

His Redskins legacy will be one of great disappointment. Is he a good guy? Sure. Was he a solid QB? Certainly. But, and I understand it's not entirely his fault, we paid a hefty price for a guy who was hardly a contributor to our two playoff teams in the six years he was here. And while I understand circumstances weren't always great around him, I think too many of us looked to that as an excuse for JC's underperforming.

I just can't wait for TO to sign with the Raiders so we can finally see Campbell to Owens

So if Campbell was here six years, does that mean he dressed up like Patrick Ramsey for all of the 2004 season? If so, then what happened to the real Patrick Ramsey?

SolidSnake84 · 04-26-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

So if Campbell was here six years, does that mean he dressed up like Patrick Ramsey for all of the 2004 season? If so, then what happened to the real Patrick Ramsey?

I'm guilty of saying six years sometimes too, only because he was with us for part of the 2010 campaign, at least in the off-season.

2005: Didn't start. Brunell goes to playoffs
2006: Took over for Brunell after 9 games
2007: Got Hurt. Collins goes to playoffs
2008: Bah
2009: Bah.
2010: Team Drafts McNabb, Campbell relegated to backup.

BigHairedAristocrat · 04-26-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I'll never understand why Gibbs drafted him when it was clear that Gibbs wasn't going to be here long enough in his second go-around to develop a QB for the future.

Gibbs and Campbell were together for 3 years. If Gibbs had stayed for the duration of his 5 year contract, it would have been 4. Thats plenty of time to develop a quality 1st round quarterback before riding off into the sunset. The problem was, Campbell was not a quality quarterback. I honestly think that If Gibbs didn't bring in Al Saunders, there's a good chance the redskins would have been more successful. Heck, if Gibbs had had the foresight to bring in a "real" GM to make personnel decisions, the skins would probably be the best team in the NFC East right now.

Monkeydad · 04-26-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Solid starter, victim of too many coaching/system changes and overall franchise instability, classy guy. I wish him luck in Oakland, if anyone is prepared to deal with that crazy organization it's certainly him.

Just hoping we can put this subject to bed soon.

We still get people whining about Patrick Ramsey's "unfair shot" occasionally.

firstdown · 04-26-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I really feel like he will go the way of other redskins qb's/draft busts. A la Ramsey, Schuler, Wuerrful, Matthews, etc. How many of us talk about them now?

He was a barely mediocre passer who was careful with the ball, and didn't make decisions that would hurt the team. He may have been too cautious, but he was a good game manager who could preserve a win if the overall team was playing lights out. He makes me think of a poor man's Kerry Collins.

If Jason doesn't win the starting job, and Tom Cable says now there is no reason to assume that the job is his, he will have a good career as a primary backup. He always has a positive attitude and prepares for the game well. He just came up a little too short in the talent department to be a serious NFL starter. I could be wrong. Time will tell.

I'll never understand why Gibbs drafted him when it was clear that Gibbs wasn't going to be here long enough in his second go-around to develop a QB for the future.

I don't think we drafted them we just picked them up because they played for the old ball coach.

Mattyk · 04-26-2010, 03:19 PM

I definitely don't think he belongs in the same discussion as guys like Wuerffel, Matthews, Ramsey, etc. JC at least has shown to be a solid starter.

Monkeydad · 04-26-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I definitely don't think he belongs in the same discussion as guys like Wuerffel, Matthews, Ramsey, etc. JC at least has shown to be a solid starter.

He'll be better for the Raiders. Strange to think about, but they have good, young running game and just added two starting tackles to protect him. His sacks could be cut in half easily this season. The Raiders have a good defense too, in that weak division with only San Diego to worry about (Denver is going the way of the Zornskins, KC is beginning to build a nice team but still far away), JC could be in the hunt to be a Wild Card Playoff QB.

Paintrain · 04-26-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

His Redskins legacy will be one of great disappointment. Is he a good guy? Sure. Was he a solid QB? Certainly. But, and I understand it's not entirely his fault, we paid a hefty price for a guy who was hardly a contributor to our two playoff teams in the six years he was here. And while I understand circumstances weren't always great around him, I think too many of us looked to that as an excuse for JC's underperforming.

I just can't wait for TO to sign with the Raiders so we can finally see Campbell to Owens

I think this pretty much sums up my thoughts as well. He was nowhere as good as his supporters thought he could be and nowhere as bad as his detractors thought he was. I hope he does well in Oakland because he's a class act and I think he can have moderate success. He will likely end up playing another 8 or so years bouncing around the league as a spot starter or platoon backup.

12thMan · 04-26-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I don't think we drafted them we just picked them up because they played for the old ball coach.

Correct, we signed those two bums off the street when old ball coach was running (ruining) the team.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-26-2010, 03:24 PM

Guarantee it'll be another 1-2 years Ramsey-style before we stop talking about what could have been, ESPECIALLY if he does well in Oakland. :-P

SolidSnake84 · 04-26-2010, 03:33 PM

i know how skins fans are lol. If he has a 9 and 7 season there, people will beg for us to trade for him, especially if we go 7 and 9 or worse with DonoShan..

skin4Life28 · 04-26-2010, 03:38 PM

Who is this Jason Campbell you refer to???

But in all serious, JC has been a great sport through everything he has been put through. But what has he done on the field? I was never onboad with drafting him as we saw what he really is, a middle of the pack qb. Nothing exciting about him. He cant put a team on his back and get a win. I wish him the best in Oakland, he'll need it.

celts32 · 04-26-2010, 03:41 PM

Doesn't the word legacy involve being remembered for something in future generations? Unless I am defining the word wrong then I don't think he has a legacy as a Redskin. 20 or 30 years from now not many Redskins fans will even remember Jason Campbell. His name will be as difficult to recall as Cary Conklin is now. What he will be is a small footnote on Joe Gibbs Redskins Legacy.

04-26-2010, 03:04 PM	#16
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: baltimore Posts: 2,690	Re: What Will Jason Campbell's Legacy Be? well, one legacy argument could be that he is the guy coach gibbs made a huge mistake on, maybe his greatest player evaluation mistake. JC is an average QB at best, down right boring to watch at worst. wish the man well, he seems to be a great person. __________________ Fails to lock onto the defender, at times, preferring to violently shove his target to the ground and look for others.

04-26-2010, 03:06 PM	#17
SolidSnake84 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 1,719	Re: What Will Jason Campbell's Legacy Be? I really feel like he will go the way of other redskins qb's/draft busts. A la Ramsey, Schuler, Wuerrful, Matthews, etc. How many of us talk about them now? He was a barely mediocre passer who was careful with the ball, and didn't make decisions that would hurt the team. He may have been too cautious, but he was a good game manager who could preserve a win if the overall team was playing lights out. He makes me think of a poor man's Kerry Collins. If Jason doesn't win the starting job, and Tom Cable says now there is no reason to assume that the job is his, he will have a good career as a primary backup. He always has a positive attitude and prepares for the game well. He just came up a little too short in the talent department to be a serious NFL starter. I could be wrong. Time will tell. I'll never understand why Gibbs drafted him when it was clear that Gibbs wasn't going to be here long enough in his second go-around to develop a QB for the future. __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

04-26-2010, 03:19 PM	#23
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,183	Re: What Will Jason Campbell's Legacy Be? I definitely don't think he belongs in the same discussion as guys like Wuerffel, Matthews, Ramsey, etc. JC at least has shown to be a solid starter. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

04-26-2010, 03:24 PM	#27
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,134	Re: What Will Jason Campbell's Legacy Be? Guarantee it'll be another 1-2 years Ramsey-style before we stop talking about what could have been, ESPECIALLY if he does well in Oakland. :-P __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-26-2010, 03:33 PM	#28
SolidSnake84 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 1,719	Re: What Will Jason Campbell's Legacy Be? i know how skins fans are lol. If he has a 9 and 7 season there, people will beg for us to trade for him, especially if we go 7 and 9 or worse with DonoShan.. __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

04-26-2010, 03:38 PM	#29
skin4Life28 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 26 Posts: 447	Re: What Will Jason Campbell's Legacy Be? Who is this Jason Campbell you refer to??? But in all serious, JC has been a great sport through everything he has been put through. But what has he done on the field? I was never onboad with drafting him as we saw what he really is, a middle of the pack qb. Nothing exciting about him. He cant put a team on his back and get a win. I wish him the best in Oakland, he'll need it.

04-26-2010, 03:41 PM	#30
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 41 Posts: 2,644	Re: What Will Jason Campbell's Legacy Be? Doesn't the word legacy involve being remembered for something in future generations? Unless I am defining the word wrong then I don't think he has a legacy as a Redskin. 20 or 30 years from now not many Redskins fans will even remember Jason Campbell. His name will be as difficult to recall as Cary Conklin is now. What he will be is a small footnote on Joe Gibbs Redskins Legacy. __________________ Section 115 Row 23 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” http://victorybeer.com/

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