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Old 04-26-2010, 02:03 PM   #1
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What Will Jason Campbell's Legacy Be?

This morning on Mike Wise's radio show, the question was asked what legacy does Jason Campbell leave behind as a Redskin. Nearly every caller, including myself, stopped short of calling Campbell a straight up bust or a failure. Some were pro Campbell, some were con, some were split, but nearly all gave him the benefit of the doubt considering the circumstances he had to deal with. One caller made an interesting observation that the Redskins were sending a bad message by booting Campbell out of town, a guy he compared to the likes of Darrell Green and Art Monk as far as class acts go, and keeping a player like Albert Haynesworth, who has made it known how he feels about playing NT and the coaching staff. But I digress.

But as i continued to listen, I wondered what if Campbell actually succeeds in Oakland? I'm not talking Super Bowl success, but let's say the Raiders just sniff the playoffs. Let's say Campbell squeezes out an 8-8 record or graces the cover of Sports Illustrated once or twice.

What type of pressure would that put on Donovan McNabb and the current administration? No one really talks about that. We've assumed the McNabb will be successful as a Redskin and Campbell will sort of plod along and just get by out there. We hear a lot about how McNabb is an upgrade, but what if JC ups his game too? Yeah, I know the what if game is futile at the end of the day, but that's what we do until the season actually kicks off.

I'll conclude by saying this, unless Campbell suffers an injury of some sort, heaven forbid, Jason Campbell will finally be Jason Campbell in Oakland. Whatever that is, he won't be over coached or dressed up in some system that doesn't suit him. I have a feeling that whatever Campbell is or isn't as an NFL quarterback, we'll find out once and for all what's under the hood. No more excuses, assumptions, or what ifs for the guy. I wish him success as a Raider and I have a feeling that a lot of Washington Redskin fans will be taking keen notice of the Oakland Raiders from week to week.
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:18 PM   #2
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Re: What Will Jason Campbell's Legacy Be?

I think he has the skills to be a solid starting qb in the league. He's not going to carry a team on his back by any means, but I can definitely see him getting a run first team into the playoffs.
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This morning on Mike Wise's radio show, the question was asked what legacy does Jason Campbell leave behind as a Redskin. Nearly every caller, including myself, stopped short of calling Campbell a straight up bust or a failure. Some were pro Campbell, some were con, some were split, but nearly all gave him the benefit of the doubt considering the circumstances he had to deal with. One caller made an interesting observation that the Redskins were sending a bad message by booting Campbell out of town, a guy he compared to the likes of Darrell Green and Art Monk as far as class acts go, and keeping a player like Albert Haynesworth, who has made it known how he feels about playing NT and the coaching staff. But I digress.

But as i continued to listen, I wondered what if Campbell actually succeeds in Oakland? I'm not talking Super Bowl success, but let's say the Raiders just sniff the playoffs. Let's say Campbell squeezes out an 8-8 record or graces the cover of Sports Illustrated once or twice.

What type of pressure would that put on Donovan McNabb and the current administration? No one really talks about that. We've assumed the McNabb will be successful as a Redskin and Campbell will sort of plod along and just get by out there. We hear a lot about how McNabb is an upgrade, but what if JC ups his game too? Yeah, I know the what if game is futile at the end of the day, but that's what we do until the season actually kicks off.

I'll conclude by saying this, unless Campbell suffers an injury of some sort, heaven forbid, Jason Campbell will finally be Jason Campbell in Oakland. Whatever that is, he won't be over coached or dressed up in some system that doesn't suit him. I have a feeling that whatever Campbell is or isn't as an NFL quarterback, we'll find out once and for all what's under the hood. No more excuses, assumptions, or what ifs for the guy. I wish him success as a Raider and I have a feeling that a lot of Washington Redskin fans will be taking keen notice of the Oakland Raiders from week to week.
He is going to be another good (not great) QB that we either let go of or sent elsewhere. See Stan Humphries, Trent Green, Jay Schroeder, Brad Johnson (Can he be included here?) etc.
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Solid starter, victim of too many coaching/system changes and overall franchise instability, classy guy. I wish him luck in Oakland, if anyone is prepared to deal with that crazy organization it's certainly him.

Just hoping we can put this subject to bed soon.
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Seeing Jason Campbell and Legacy in the same sentence made me chuckle.
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Solid starter, victim of too many coaching/system changes and overall franchise instability, classy guy. I wish him luck in Oakland, if anyone is prepared to deal with that crazy organization it's certainly him.

Just hoping we can put this subject to bed soon.
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This morning on Mike Wise's radio show, the question was asked what legacy does Jason Campbell leave behind as a Redskin. Nearly every caller, including myself, stopped short of calling Campbell a straight up bust or a failure. Some were pro Campbell, some were con, some were split, but nearly all gave him the benefit of the doubt considering the circumstances he had to deal with. One caller made an interesting observation that the Redskins were sending a bad message by booting Campbell out of town, a guy he compared to the likes of Darrell Green and Art Monk as far as class acts go, and keeping a player like Albert Haynesworth, who has made it known how he feels about playing NT and the coaching staff. But I digress.

But as i continued to listen, I wondered what if Campbell actually succeeds in Oakland? I'm not talking Super Bowl success, but let's say the Raiders just sniff the playoffs. Let's say Campbell squeezes out an 8-8 record or graces the cover of Sports Illustrated once or twice.

What type of pressure would that put on Donovan McNabb and the current administration? No one really talks about that. We've assumed the McNabb will be successful as a Redskin and Campbell will sort of plod along and just get by out there. We hear a lot about how McNabb is an upgrade, but what if JC ups his game too? Yeah, I know the what if game is futile at the end of the day, but that's what we do until the season actually kicks off.

I'll conclude by saying this, unless Campbell suffers an injury of some sort, heaven forbid, Jason Campbell will finally be Jason Campbell in Oakland. Whatever that is, he won't be over coached or dressed up in some system that doesn't suit him. I have a feeling that whatever Campbell is or isn't as an NFL quarterback, we'll find out once and for all what's under the hood. No more excuses, assumptions, or what ifs for the guy. I wish him success as a Raider and I have a feeling that a lot of Washington Redskin fans will be taking keen notice of the Oakland Raiders from week to week.
Well if squeezes out an 8-8 record I'll say that about par for him. Sorry but I don't think McNabb will be looking over his shoulder to see if JC is pushing him.
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loser. didnt make enough plays to be called anything else but that. always had all the excuses already built in. but a true pro, who will almost always say/ do the right things
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I think he has the skills to be a solid starting qb in the league. He's not going to carry a team on his back by any means, but I can definitely see him getting a run first team into the playoffs.
Skills? He couldn't hit the deep accurately, couldnt throw the short ball with touch. Wasn't a threat running and never learned to slide. I totally agree that he had a tough road to tread, but i just don't see any positives.

And to the OP, there is no legacy. Just another bust qb.
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It will be just a little better then Ramsey's. I mean it should be obvious, unlike Ramsey there were teams out there that wanted Campbell to come in and compete for a starting job. Carolina just lucked out with Clausen and Cleveland was hand tied with Jake.

However at the same time the cries from the fan base were similar. Just give him a little more time, get him a line, get him some recievers, get him a real coach. I think the fans got tired of having to put in so much effort only to get back so much especially being surrounded in a division where recently everyone had a great QB but us.

I think he's a solid QB and has the tools to be successful with a team if they follow the Jaguars blue print from a few years ago when David Garrard got selected to a pro bowl in 2007. However I don't think he's the type of QB where you can put a team on his back.

He has a very high floor thanks to the combination of physical tools and work ethic but he seems to have a very limited ceiling as well.

He will always be respected around here though, and I think the class he carried himself with and that toughness kept him here longer then he would have been otherwise.

He actually reminds me a lot of Jose Theodore with the Caps this year. Theres time where he shows you just how good he can be but then all of a sudden he lays an egg and you're reminded as to why you have that uncomfortable feeling residing in the back of your head.
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:48 PM   #11
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His Redskins legacy will be one of great disappointment. Is he a good guy? Sure. Was he a solid QB? Certainly. But, and I understand it's not entirely his fault, we paid a hefty price for a guy who was hardly a contributor to our two playoff teams in the six years he was here. And while I understand circumstances weren't always great around him, I think too many of us looked to that as an excuse for JC's underperforming.

I just can't wait for TO to sign with the Raiders so we can finally see Campbell to Owens
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:58 PM   #12
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Great guy, not a great QB. The bottom line is that if he was good and had success, there wouldn't have been so much turnover in the coordinator or coaching positions. The guy can't make the quick decisions that it takes to be successful in the NFL. Hell, he got hurt and Todd Collins led us to the playoffs. Also, Tom Cable says that Campbell isn't guaranteed the starting role, so we will have to see how that pans out.

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he will be forgotten in time
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Old 04-26-2010, 03:00 PM   #14
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For the next generation of serious fans like us I think he'll just be cited as the guy Joe Gibbs brought in as his franchise qb of the future. Otherwise, my guess is that he'll fall into such obscurity that there will not be enough to remember about him in 10-15 years.

I don't think he'll have a poor career from here out, just not a particularly noteworthy one. I see him getting to the playoffs w/the raiders in 2011-12, then looking for a new deal. I don't see him going on to have the success that Trent Green or Brad Johnson did after leaving us.
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Re: What Will Jason Campbell's Legacy Be?

Campbell was on some really terrible Redskin teams. Once Samuels and Thomas got injured, the offensive line that was left last year was one of the worst Redskins offensive lines in recent memory. Zorn's short pass west coast offense (LOL!) was not to his strength either.

It will be interesting to see how he does with the Raiders long vertical passing game. They have some speed and talent at the skill positions in Oakland. Just like in DC the O-line will tell the tale.
He still has a chance to be a very good QB. I will root for him
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